From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 326CB139085 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69732E0D00; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 327FCE0CFF; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04B953412CB; Thu, 5 Jan 2017 21:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 22:56:49 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: Matthew Thode Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-nfp Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Merging Trustees and Council / Developers and Foundation Message-ID: <20170105225649.17fc8f79.mgorny@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <57d3af79-4212-b8b9-40df-6120b1445c8b@gentoo.org> References: <57d3af79-4212-b8b9-40df-6120b1445c8b@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/FL7nXZ.h2RX=2IljbE5iKCZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 5a187672-756e-46c4-8597-6c75a262f6b7 X-Archives-Hash: 02eacf88d5c257278827f8bcf6670624 --Sig_/FL7nXZ.h2RX=2IljbE5iKCZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 15:36:45 -0600 Matthew Thode wrote: > Possible Solution: > In order to solve this Gentoo needs to have a combined electorate, > meaning those that would vote for Council would also vote for Trustees > and visa-versa. This would ensure that everyone=E2=80=99s needs are repr= esented. > We should have a single combined governing body, let=E2=80=99s call it = =E2=80=98The > Board=E2=80=99. This is so that conflicts between Council and Trustees (= as they > exist now) would have a straightforward resolution. This new =E2=80=98Bo= ard=E2=80=99 > would be able to use the existing project metastructure to delegate > roles to various groups (Comrel, Infra, etc would still exist, but under > this new Board). Well, this kind of superficial description does not raise any immediate concerns. However, the devil's in the detail, and if you really want comments, you should start providing some. As far as I understand, this would effectively require every developer to be a member of the Foundation. I think that Foundation membership is more legally binding than 'being a developer =3D having commit access'. One thing I'm particular worried about is the potential of 'US embargo'. What if a particular developer/recruit is/will not be legally allowed to be a member of Gentoo Foundation? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/FL7nXZ.h2RX=2IljbE5iKCZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlhuwSJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUACgkQsHoa6u+0 Rk61PA//Q7naVkIGYQBoOQ25Jpp3VElfIXrHUCwbdh+TLiDDbgxwGiiPxmtBCZHl YxcVY8Rw1Ii6ACIRDu3qt3aMlnyb7SU1GGsauEWUWP35/70bfLN9uEe/Nqi8vKq5 PKqc0XLZlZxWcTdY/aLAFZSUjKqSPYr5dwPnLA24VtuS+iUiJHkwKfpZW1n8XiyJ jSYbzHtHHNpUybZXJezivyFnSfFR37U5f/112H/CqlK/HoHx1+jPPaeNos1y/mV4 /ORA/GPiKYc+cgycjrULvr2vL73JxUaZ6UbSK31hBvr/n4rQ6xm8JT2IVghBKJN/ QMp4acKPgeC1glJuD5JJzUj++gC7YOwHrb3jQrW/7eq0SbhciG1HFe2qfqbFYOU2 R+Zf9fl52U6xXz3OBp4MVfbZEwoWaL4Gx1zLhuZPOwUyoOU0y8ZnMnEHN1LyaNqP 3X0gMzmD+fKFGdyiyvS0lLQRlKvaYmrO84Kkk5pcHy4lMj76s56JJvdC2IZMwjAy KG7FAeSicBkWRp6v4+Nt6NmVuvk8DeY3Exu45bofb926FeNDe69RiVznhBHxNqhn fQzVFSMDaHyOC3uW8oTT8H8Gw/L3twgrNWpiZ8KPRBX2HLcw9wLOtjK7qWBUOZM2 9bI2gE694lGVljQvmFn+EMMBZ76fzdTfmlxgV6cdBmFzx1U07U8= =1ORE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/FL7nXZ.h2RX=2IljbE5iKCZ--