From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31E641395E2 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 15:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A348E0C84; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36F0EE0C78 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A80C340E75; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 15:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:57:32 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-12-11 Message-ID: <20161202165732.65e2286f.mgorny@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <22593.37635.263495.213458@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <22592.7350.186406.187762@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <22593.37635.263495.213458@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/Y7L+8fkhD7j3YV=+hr0pQ=e"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: b4e6c1d9-ff29-4128-be9f-66f1a903a650 X-Archives-Hash: f52b529ba23a640c3685ea86e4c6e603 --Sig_/Y7L+8fkhD7j3YV=+hr0pQ=e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 16:28:03 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2016, Ulrich Mueller wrote: =20 >=20 > > Can we discuss and possibly vote on reopening the gentoo-council > > mailing list [1], to be used for any council topics like agenda items? = =20 >=20 > > Rationale: > > 1. The gentoo-project list is intended for non-technical matters. > > Council business includes both technical and non-technical issues. > > 2. I recently find it increasingly difficult to filter the noise out > > of -project, in order to find the topics that I need to know about. = =20 >=20 > In case that this should be rejected, I propose to moderate the > gentoo-project mailing list instead. Details to be worked out, but > probably we would want to whitelist @gentoo.org addresses. Well, there are actually three possible ways here: 1. We fork new mailing lists for more specific topics every time the broader one gets spammed to the point of making it impossible to use for other developers. 2. We start moderating further mailing lists every time they get spammed to the point of making it impossible to preserve a factual conversation for all developers. 3. We just ask nicely people who spam the lists to stop, and if they don't we ban them altogether. 1. sounds like a never-ending struggle, though may be appropriate anyway in some cases. 2. sounds like a major hassle that might only cause additional work and complaints. In which case 3. sounds like the best thing to do. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/Y7L+8fkhD7j3YV=+hr0pQ=e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlhBmexfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUACgkQsHoa6u+0 Rk7AKw//VvlRdnaVyrXxyOUa5qUyjiM8McoKIUbu7trMh16Pwpn5UZCZoBg+5WDe rKwh3KocczBVs5mq0rFQpHR1n7CuHvgt9NFKewRhjzd2KUP5LTr+AEz3pk7k/vSE QMDCbHfG3c6SQeY87jNo02KdD0KMAC/eaLj4ZVeKaRF5QaGv7k6ATodGHSNQhLss gPkappcVjQLKMKsjH3ax2EHyu428zQHA4HSb2oUGr85ma+VhjN8TjWzPRLh63mYL 2vEDrYyNfmy1SbR3Cv9X5H3kS9R4TqwickjovWQ7nwOuvrPwNjQQplBNUaikSqtO logd59xCNvXPazJ2dJ+4BVnwLcazhsT3akTP/F2lWiQDyWHNr2cV4WboljeF6eOz 4IqLredBoreeQN46FoDfjmm/U5ZnD6BmND/Hb6bqHuxmNWQ6HJy3ydn1eO4ojuiu ToelvMlIKHDfSdEZtUQuayhSr6pMqkVcIb8JH4U5nOoe3oMeYCazAqRy0zRWUJfU Y3557GxZx/0yDIvjKFO/BNjw13niGfaOkv8E8odASuO55Gl0yEBoojuTAGP/rc2I EUjOfaPlh9En6uK0BGqaOIpvQ+VDMynqRcIUkX8u5vkS4/mrn+nRDcDj2SK6UJl2 clNj9zil8RVYVtv8Iw/i7X1c4HCwZfwixN3tXoBB7MLjV24cVzs= =HZAA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Y7L+8fkhD7j3YV=+hr0pQ=e--