On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 05:43:46 -0800 Daniel Campbell wrote: > I'm not going to mince words here: why did we kick out a contributor who > was helping the Gentoo cause? I've looked over logs that were shared > with me and the worst thing I could find was an off-color joke. Worse > things occur on these mailing lists that never see Comrel's inbox, so > why this? > > Ian's ban was recently lifted (or so I heard). Correspondence from a > member of Proxy Maintainers was shared with me, calling for Ian to be > banned from #gentoo-proxy-maint on Freenode, despite Ian not visiting > said channel recently. What is the reasoning for this? > > What I'm looking for is undeniable proof that Ian was irrevocably > damaging and threatening to Gentoo, to justify his dismissal and > accompanying ban. If such information will not or cannot be provided, > then it indicates to me that there *is* no proof, and without it I will > call for his reinstatement for the next council meeting. > > I am not alone in requesting accountability from the top of Gentoo. I > will take the results of this conversation into consideration when it's > time to vote next year, as Gentoo is suffering from staffing issues and > practices like this actively damage Gentoo's ability to attract and > retain contributors. I have personally met people who have suffered as a > result of this debacle; people willing and eager to help us out that are > still struggling to join our ranks. So what gives? > > This distribution should not turn away anyone willing (and able) to > help. This is a critical flaw that could accelerate our decline. Considering the nature of comrel operation, I don't think a public mailing list is an appropriate medium for this conversation. In fact, I'm not even sure if you already haven't disclosed confidential information. However, in order to hopefully satisfy your curiosity, I'm going to tell you something general: there are people who can do a lot of harm to Gentoo without breaking any obvious rules. -- Best regards, Michał Górny