From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088AD13888F for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 110E2E080B; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 397B4E0806 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (77-255-10-233.adsl.inetia.pl [77.255.10.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C35C2340771; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 07:47:56 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: "Andreas K. Huettel" Cc: "gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org" , Gentoo Council Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Message-ID: <20151005074756.6df0fc2c.mgorny@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org> References: <1904237.nU16iSOlTl@kailua> <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/uA50g_X6rWxKjvYO_3nEu=W"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 735d96e2-ded4-4667-a9e2-359fff44405d X-Archives-Hash: f595f9fef4bce02c875e980ec5d21841 --Sig_/uA50g_X6rWxKjvYO_3nEu=W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 20:15:37 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny napisa=C5=82(a): > Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 16:01:16 > "Andreas K. Huettel" napisa=C5=82(a): >=20 > > the Gentoo Council will meet again on Sunday, October 11 at 19:00 UTC in > > #gentoo-council on freenode. > >=20 > > Please reply to this message with any items you would like us to discuss > > or vote on. >=20 > I would like to get a final decision/vote on what to do about projects, > herds, etc. and the relevant metadata. Since this whole thing turned into a huge mess where people keep bringing solutions to their own problems without defining them, I'm going to try to organize this into smaller topics which should be suitable for discussion. If someone could improve this split, I'd appreciate. 1. Herds vs projects. Are projects enough? Don't we need a 'more lightweight' maintainer groups that don't have a wiki page? 2. Group e-mail addresses. Aren't they supposed to be unique? Should more than one project share the same e-mail alias? How is that supposed to work when the projects can have different members? (related: e-mail alias autogeneration) 3. Wiki as reference project metadata store. We already kept project metadata in website and we all know how it all turned out. Moving them to wiki sounded fine when the alternative was CVS but we have proj/api.git know. (don't confuse this with exporting the data) 4. Wording. If we decide that projects are enough, can we make 'herd' a synonym of 'project', and avoid unnecessary renames? 5. Herd/project names vs e-mail addresses. How to make them more consistent and ease bug assignments? (related: metadata.xml) 6. Autogeneration of mail aliases. Do we want it? How should it work? 7. Future of herds.xml. Should we autogenerate it from Wiki or replace with another file serving the same purpose? 8. Changes in metadata.xml. How to solve the issue of ordering between and ? Can be related to solving the issue of bug assignment when project e-mail doesn't match the name. 9. Backwards compatibility. How much effort will be required to fix all the software? Is the change worth the effort? What about semi-external services which Gentoo users use but are unlikely to be fixed in short time? I hope this covers all the ideas that have been floating around here. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/uA50g_X6rWxKjvYO_3nEu=W Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJWEg8MXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2REJCMDdDQzRGMERBRDA2RUEwQUZFNDFC MDdBMUFFQUVGQjQ0NjRFAAoJELB6GurvtEZOo/4P+gPNwd/uHd+r8JjlR1dOYDYi 3H1eiGCvomgGsseixiEBXDBPfwfVrwO9U62k/wpwWyUvjM5N/2ZpgN3XdKWn6kOC EaDm/oP+eTDQz3SPbXOkKcDL0r+Q0os3WQ4cbg9APXoPfG79tElAI7Z7u//Hs9dt AUoh+h/2fblyUtYAgH5UHaevcNnj1esOEZOo1SuFwARbJ9deelK5GQqiWpzpb4D0 W5jPwodftFS2JjQrtreE/8YBoGBeQG3zdkZZIjz6fznK87SpZXMUCO9KItj21zfH +cX6aKa05PAnbhQkXOi3z5HAOLlsYJw+r1n/bZWOlzsIxVYzrasaDQKP8ffiuAGe f7n8P4qTa/o+Xuf+O2G7k2G8riDGKV5ApRAbvYKaXii8r5UQUhe4NcrW30hptG1O srJ5v9y9v8iRuAE8YH8Ilk4Un2GrUz8JQC7ktiYHX03JY6hL5i4m2atAoW7fT+zy PHDwqQRPjY7rBZFjMnX+xPDuXPUQv9NDxi5UegE+AB0ZifBTyhAdNNQyS4kv7KTr CiKRIW725zXHCjb6ZTzXxY4ndFomkm2CvJ8k2kvg8xua13kAz6KPaVcQQvhfOy3Y nhKF1rUVxq+ldrePI73W5gOlibBOtJRMjr02DR4lv9+V7CIF03iPi3QSR+b046Ie aGD0C1MkXFm72MTVWHiJ =+l4q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/uA50g_X6rWxKjvYO_3nEu=W--