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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
Cc: "gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org"
	<gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>,
	Gentoo Council <council@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 07:47:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151005074756.6df0fc2c.mgorny@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org>

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Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 20:15:37
Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> Dnia 2015-09-30, o godz. 16:01:16
> "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > the Gentoo Council will meet again on Sunday, October 11 at 19:00 UTC in
> > #gentoo-council on freenode.
> > 
> > Please reply to this message with any items you would like us to discuss
> > or vote on.
> 
> I would like to get a final decision/vote on what to do about projects,
> herds, etc. and the relevant metadata.

Since this whole thing turned into a huge mess where people keep
bringing solutions to their own problems without defining them, I'm
going to try to organize this into smaller topics which should be
suitable for discussion. If someone could improve this split, I'd
appreciate.


1. Herds vs projects. Are projects enough? Don't we need a 'more
lightweight' maintainer groups that don't have a wiki page?

2. Group e-mail addresses. Aren't they supposed to be unique? Should
more than one project share the same e-mail alias? How is that supposed
to work when the projects can have different members? (related: e-mail
alias autogeneration)

3. Wiki as reference project metadata store. We already kept project
metadata in website and we all know how it all turned out. Moving them
to wiki sounded fine when the alternative was CVS but we have
proj/api.git know. (don't confuse this with exporting the data)

4. Wording. If we decide that projects are enough, can we make 'herd'
a synonym of 'project', and avoid unnecessary renames?

5. Herd/project names vs e-mail addresses. How to make them more
consistent and ease bug assignments? (related: metadata.xml)

6. Autogeneration of mail aliases. Do we want it? How should it work?

7. Future of herds.xml. Should we autogenerate it from Wiki or replace
with another file serving the same purpose?

8. Changes in metadata.xml. How to solve the issue of ordering between
<herd/> and <maintainer/>? Can be related to solving the issue of bug
assignment when project e-mail doesn't match the name.

9. Backwards compatibility. How much effort will be required to fix all
the software? Is the change worth the effort? What about semi-external
services which Gentoo users use but are unlikely to be fixed in short
time?


I hope this covers all the ideas that have been floating around here.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
<http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-05  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-30 14:01 [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 18:15 ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:10   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 19:22     ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:39       ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 19:47         ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 20:05           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 20:12             ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 13:00             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-09-30 19:45     ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-30 20:21   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 20:26     ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 20:36       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 20:39         ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 21:53           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-09-30 21:05         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 12:53         ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-01 12:55     ` Alexis Ballier
2015-10-01 19:08     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-01 19:14       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 19:14         ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-01 19:39           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-01 19:53             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-10-02 14:42     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-02 18:22       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-03  9:40         ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-03 10:49           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-03 11:23             ` Alex Legler
2015-10-02  0:57   ` [gentoo-project] Project membership vs being on a mail alias: pitfalls and problems Robin H. Johnson
2015-10-02  6:49     ` Michał Górny
2015-10-05  5:47   ` Michał Górny [this message]
2015-09-30 18:43 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-30 18:45 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2015-10-08 12:42   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-08 12:58     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-08 14:09       ` Michał Górny
2015-10-08 15:01         ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-08 15:27           ` hasufell
2015-10-08 18:24           ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09  1:21             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-09  9:44               ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09 10:29                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 16:12                   ` Ian Delaney
2015-10-09 19:29                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-09 10:31               ` hasufell
2015-10-09 10:50                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 10:58                   ` hasufell
2015-10-09 11:07                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 11:17                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 11:23                       ` hasufell
2015-10-09 11:56                         ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 12:15                           ` hasufell
2015-10-09 23:40                             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 10:16                               ` hasufell
2015-10-10 11:35                                 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 11:37                                   ` hasufell
2015-10-10 12:21                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2015-10-10 12:23                                       ` hasufell
2015-10-10 13:56                                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10 17:14                                         ` Dale
2015-10-10 18:56                             ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-10 18:59                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-10-10 21:41                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-17 23:14                                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-10-17 23:36                                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18  0:33                                       ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-20  9:36                                     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-10-20 10:05                                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-20 10:11                                         ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-10-10 19:17                               ` hasufell
2015-10-10  1:41             ` Matt Turner
2015-10-08 18:30           ` Michał Górny
2015-10-09  9:35             ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-10  1:51               ` Matt Turner
2015-10-10  8:21                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-10-09 23:38             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10  7:21               ` Michał Górny
2015-10-10  1:44             ` Matt Turner
2015-10-08 18:48         ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-10-08 20:22           ` James Le Cuirot
2015-10-09 23:34           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-10-10  7:26             ` Michał Górny
2015-09-30 19:12 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 18:36   ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-30 20:24 ` Manuel Rüger
2015-10-01 12:32 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-01 13:18   ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-12  8:23   ` Michał Górny
2015-10-12 12:42     ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 20:58       ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 21:18         ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 21:49           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 22:13           ` hasufell
2015-10-18 23:35             ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-18 21:28         ` Michał Górny
2015-10-18 21:54           ` hasufell
2015-10-18 21:56           ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-10-18 22:28           ` Daniel Campbell
2015-10-18 22:40             ` James Le Cuirot
2015-10-19  7:55               ` Michał Górny
2015-10-19 10:44                 ` hasufell
2015-10-12 13:07     ` hasufell
2015-10-04 11:13 ` Michał Górny
2015-10-04 12:17   ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-07 11:58     ` Michał Górny

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