From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF5A1384A7 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE95BE085B; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo4-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo4-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de [81.169.146.180]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0424FE0855 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 2015 20:20:10 +0000 (UTC) X-RZG-AUTH: :I3kQYkG6f/ML/Lb0bAYFCBt+SpICkd7E+UrA1ycmip9RDA+sU5X/Le5mi0zzO+f99VO8tQ== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from porto.localnet (88-133-183-17.hsi.glasfaser-ostbayern.de [88.133.183.17]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 37.12 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id R0277dr8UKK8STy (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Wed, 30 Sep 2015 22:20:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: =?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 22:21:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.10; x86_64; ; ) Cc: "gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org" , Gentoo Council References: <1904237.nU16iSOlTl@kailua> <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20150930201537.1d79253a.mgorny@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201509302221.28178.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: f2329784-a350-4780-9c81-d1b2bd31bdad X-Archives-Hash: 62a42b482ad468a45c0e9c2ce2c98543 Am Mittwoch, 30. September 2015, 20:15:37 schrieb Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny: >=20 > I would like to get a final decision/vote on what to do about projects, > herds, etc. and the relevant metadata. Here's my alternative proposal how to solve this. It takes a slightly more= =20 radical approach and tries to replace the old mess not with a newer mess bu= t=20 with a true simplification. Expanded from [1]. a) Remove the word "herd" from docs and specifications. b) Package is "in herd" -> package is "maintained by project" c) In metadata.xml, replace x -> y This needs (as Ulrich has already pointed out) a short-name y for each=20 project, to be defined on its wiki page. E.g., "Gentoo KDE project" has shortname kde. d) Simple and stupid mapping for e-mail aliases:=20 project shortname y -> e-mail alias is y-project@g.o Legacy (e.g. y@g.o) addresses will be forwarded. e) Since per GLEP 39 only developers can be project members, let's introduc= e=20 "contributors" which are listed on the wiki project page together with the= =20 members. f) The project e-mail alias is automatically populated from the wiki page=20 (members and contributors). * We may want to introduce a tick mark on the member listing ("Receives=20 project mail"), if not all project members want to be on the alias. * This introduces the simplification that alias members are a subset of=20 project members & contributors. I.e., noone not listed on the project page = can=20 get project mail. * Obviously there are exceptions to this rigid structure for few special te= ams=20 (sec, infra, ...) Thoughts? Andreas [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/7fa1dd0095297d1c3365d432= 058a088f =2D-=20 Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice) dilfridge@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/