From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1574C138A1A for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C98B5E0AAC; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13B1EE0AA7 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (sloan0.ut.mephi.ru [85.143.112.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bircoph) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4639834070E for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:05:01 +0300 From: Andrew Savchenko To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Message-Id: <20150215180501.fdc00ccf36117f6591cd4225@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20150215145027.06dd1a86@pomiot.lan> References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <1423967017.19532.4.camel@gentoo.org> <20150215153958.e2e5bb66a322a3543df368d9@gentoo.org> <20150215145027.06dd1a86@pomiot.lan> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA512"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__15_Feb_2015_18_05_01_+0300_/9jqP1JgN_ad1R/=" X-Archives-Salt: 4c0c3686-e468-4a7a-b936-1d78af370ad9 X-Archives-Hash: 3d08c52c922d9a902a675935bb47c068 --Signature=_Sun__15_Feb_2015_18_05_01_+0300_/9jqP1JgN_ad1R/= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:50:27 +0100 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > Dnia 2015-02-15, o godz. 15:39:58 > Andrew Savchenko napisa=C5=82(a): > > On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:55:41 +0100 Alexey Lapitsky wrote: [...] > > Is Gentoo willing to say "no" to the software freedom and its own > > social obligations in order to make contributions easier in the > > simplest way possible? >=20 > Please explain me, how *exactly* does allowing contributions via > proprietary platform hurt free software? If this platform will become a de-facto common way to made contributions (and this may happen taking into account github's popularity), then platform unavailability or policy changes may hurt the whole development process. Please forgive me for repeating myself once more, but I was directly asked "how", so... Github is not just a git server, this is a platform with numerous instruments and auxiliary data. In case of any negative change all these data (issues, code reviews and so on) will be lost. And there is no clean way to migrate these data to another facilities. Thus we will have a classic web-based lock-in with all lock-in driven consequences. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko --Signature=_Sun__15_Feb_2015_18_05_01_+0300_/9jqP1JgN_ad1R/= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU4LWdAAoJEPZTWjO6HuSNQNoP/2F0Fp/Vk4Cmq4tmAZpNx0pF l/qS05DfW9ZCRazMMnI9Q61gK7yokfy7urwAZUW3ukJreyWrM49OPHSj++ccPUgY /mLqeSvB90SZTxi80q9NDniXeJ3xcLNzopc1USWeapdKg7TMJit1mb3r9kApJev4 /bihLWkkoIs9aYQjkLzkmc+oZxVfoxqT13W6Fsr5Pdzyth883bwSyS3CSItkxeFT ssH12jKz2E0K7OtdCri0tVJT4HwnJkfuheNLvgEEUGZb4P/D9B5caBoiGU7IzWqd xggwJzm4DTP/qwHqTVA0f8C2ScXQHr/CvNstj7A30G9P6CrwXTN37+u1yodjmuat CuGLNoyLs3CMHQW+ACd/rU6D6/UFDytsEgHJgkGmcU0+4dY8eVUcSbjwzzKmK+Gk r/HfQpRdIPChDoxOy0hCZMEfhqpK/H7Y3sGpU0K6fJiLyFfUc+EbPrcbMmMRoiDD G6jEvneHdG/IzBRMEAfCZ9wBx6h/uFPoxW52Ygs+Ln52s6x4dW+tAd7HJJv7kgaA 9JoxZnkSULILkHCWj7QZtdkuaV8UOoNyXiS1sPx2zAAu+KR7YQ8VMTfvlBP+27zx XlWuNcb7VLh1vcNlBaThvVOivdBrRifUiNAejyFDg/K8Pm/EcAx1NxRjM2AHxPGF tMU1x57dYwcepIKeo91d =lxdT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__15_Feb_2015_18_05_01_+0300_/9jqP1JgN_ad1R/=--