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From: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:39:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150215153958.e2e5bb66a322a3543df368d9@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAts5mPtUz3vWj3a_uovU81jiuoW5rWH3=_T8+NUPacs2W79ew@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:55:41 +0100 Alexey Lapitsky wrote:
> Hi Mart,
> 
> I agree with every sentence from your email.
> 
> Rich made a great example about the rabbit hole. I don't think we
> should blindly follow the social contract.
> 
> Just want to add that Github has pushed forward so many open source
> projects that we must ask ourselves a different question:
> 
> Is Gentoo willing to say "no" to the new users, developers and the
> speed of development just because Github is not FOSS?

Is Gentoo willing to say "no" to the software freedom and its own
social obligations in order to make contributions easier in the
simplest way possible?

There is a fine line here: if github will turn to a main
development platform for Gentoo — this is way too dangerous from
both philosophical and practical ways.

What if github will change its policy at any random moment, e.g.
will kick projects or deny whole countries to contribute? What if
they will require payment for services at some time?

Github itself is uncontrolled by Gentoo community, this rises
security concerns as well.

> As Rich said, Gentoo has always been a bit pragmatic. I think it
> should be an easy question for any pragmatic team.

P.S. And please, don't top-post.

Best regards,
Andrew Savchenko

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-15 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-14 20:48 [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-14 20:55 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-14 21:09   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:23     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 21:25 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 21:37 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 21:42   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:56     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 22:08       ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:13         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:23           ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:31             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:35               ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 22:40                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 23:10                   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-02-14 23:15                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 17:30                         ` NP Hardass
2015-02-15 17:43                           ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 19:24                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  9:07                             ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-14 23:13                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:19                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:02                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:36                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:55                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  5:54                 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 12:45                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:23   ` Mart Raudsepp
2015-02-15  2:57     ` Ben de Groot
2015-02-15 10:09       ` Markos Chandras
2015-02-15 13:17       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2015-02-15  9:55     ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 12:39       ` Andrew Savchenko [this message]
2015-02-15 13:50         ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 15:05           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 15:21             ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 17:01             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 15:27         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15  2:15 ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15  6:00   ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15  6:20     ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15 12:29     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:42 ` hasufell
2015-02-15  4:12   ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:23     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-16  3:26     ` hasufell
2015-02-16 11:19       ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:37         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 11:55           ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17 14:01             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-18  4:14       ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-18 17:56         ` hasufell
2015-02-18 18:05           ` Matt Turner
2015-02-18 18:47             ` hasufell
2015-02-18 19:19               ` Matt Turner
2015-02-18 22:09                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20 21:05                   ` hasufell
2015-02-21  0:19                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20  4:49               ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-15  6:04 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 16:17   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 17:42     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 18:39       ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 19:08         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 19:23           ` Seemant Kulleen
2015-02-16 13:43             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-16 22:14               ` Michael Jones
2015-02-17  6:52                 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 14:18                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-18  2:19                     ` hasufell
2015-02-16 13:28           ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 23:24       ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-16  0:06         ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:48           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17  9:01   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-17 12:10     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-18  3:47       ` [gentoo-project] Infra Kickstarter? Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-18 13:30         ` Pavlos Ratis
2015-02-19  0:31         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-19 12:16         ` vivo75
2015-02-26  8:38         ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15 11:06 ` [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Amadeusz Żołnowski
2015-02-15 12:18   ` Andrew Savchenko

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