From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357D6138A1A for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F3C5E0A70; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B899E0A6F for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id p10so22933127wes.2 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=NtQfCtKeHaGHYm36lbex2hHvfblNe86EHYxeAZmvNoc=; b=wBQsdna84ewBrv0iv4/nd+gVTiG7DyPYjVcs9TgxFy4ChvKLgWS/+Rozd8WdvyLhxn MJqiXeeLM02tFL/GjxxWffD5O4CNGO7C8dL2UfbTYzW4MeyEKMKkGFAa59J5FPlLswRR BzkBiUH1r/NcES5bydgtNEGsOtexjtzNePiKJCkZhgTnJsSvHRCqojh3LyNiGUolsoVy 7spFa33pb1QDjGTKZ1a+92i4oRuRnliwow4OuFrU3yXI3I1aHTUM2ehi3OaQJYJgwVb5 1PfMLxlRByMDP1A0PhEBdqFVzJqg1Rpfc6jDkXhAvA6jQ1fs1Q+tgf5BZW0xHxaZHWL6 5CjA== X-Received: by 10.194.61.65 with SMTP id n1mr34490486wjr.53.1423953656290; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (cpc67371-broo7-2-0-cust693.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [82.28.182.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cf12sm15872711wjb.10.2015.02.14.14.40.55 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:40:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:40:54 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Message-ID: <20150214224054.16de1017@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150215013540.e861fb20ebcbea7b49b2ec19@gentoo.org> References: <201502142148.30540.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <54DFC134.5070300@gentoo.org> <54DFC771.8060802@gentoo.org> <20150214221352.3c52aa6f@googlemail.com> <54DFCAF4.8090306@gentoo.org> <20150214223148.0aa094da@googlemail.com> <20150215013540.e861fb20ebcbea7b49b2ec19@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/U07MCv3Eg2hrUJBQqbEBbxF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ce19e86a-0e7d-438e-adb3-34fb1be5fd95 X-Archives-Hash: 1acfaad41e651d5804e2cfc468d18ec2 --Sig_/U07MCv3Eg2hrUJBQqbEBbxF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 01:35:40 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:31:48 +0000 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:23:48 +0100 > > Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > > On 14/02/15 23:13, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > That's how Git works. > > > > > > Consider contributors (Gentoo developers or not) that want to > > > submit patches to a project. They should have access to the > > > primary repository (git or not), and be able to contribute > > > without being forced to use proprietary software. This is > > > incredibly easy to facilitate, so I don't expect us to have a > > > problem related to github and our social mission here. > >=20 > > What if their ISP runs proprietary software to manage its network? > > Will Gentoo accept patches by pigeon? (Obviously the postal service > > can't be relied upon to not use proprietary software.) >=20 > One should not confuse transparent data transmission mediator and > active data management engine required to create, submit or > apply changes. What's the difference between connecting to a proprietary Git server over an open network stack, and connecting to an open Git server over a proprietary network stack? --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/U07MCv3Eg2hrUJBQqbEBbxF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlTfzvYACgkQ96zL6DUtXhH4BACggC8KYLtyW+3x9l/CM5bbvd2s 1zIAn1qwcInFrlofMiu2PPTnHDkBAim3 =n0m/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/U07MCv3Eg2hrUJBQqbEBbxF--