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[76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mq8sm2862104oeb.2.2015.01.08.07.05.35 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:05:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@gmail.com> Received: (nullmailer pid 14910 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:05:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 09:05:33 -0600 From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting 2015-01-13: call for agenda items Message-ID: <20150108150533.GA14817@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <201412271334.34252.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_=_yAs72Q1sKGfNs+BADE3UUQFHcteY_kG0c7_XaguOaw@mail.gmail.com> <20150107163052.GA7151@linux1> <CAGfcS_mzh5yeXQm3QhGweeFU0EyFwqqbD6a+iY9OpDt1yY-oVw@mail.gmail.com> <20150107193517.GA7953@linux1> <20150108002118.4e788983796904090c47a072@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150108002118.4e788983796904090c47a072@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Archives-Salt: 54a53e97-92be-4bb7-a434-337832849838 X-Archives-Hash: 441961d4a19190d48b72e37a483127c4 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 08, 2015 at 12:21:18AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hello, >=20 > On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:35:17 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > If we want to keep proprietary packages with security issues in the > > tree, they should be marked as proprietary in package.mask so it is > > obvious that they will never be fixed. > >=20 > > If there is an upstream security issue with a non-proprietary > > package: > >=20 > > When a version or revision with the fix is available, it should be > > fast stabled. Once that is done, all older versions should be removed > > if possible. if this is not possible right away, the older versions > > should go in p.mask with a removal date. > >=20 > > Thoughts? >=20 > What about open source packages with no fixes or where doesn't > consider bug as a security issue? Good example is > games-roguelike/nethack, bug 125902, where upstream doesn't > consider issue as a security problem and for many setups (e.g. > personal device with single user is the games group) this is not a > problem at all? =20 I just read through this bug, and I see it the same way most people who posted to the bug see it. It is a major flaw in how our games policies were designed. Since it is known that we are moving toward getting rid of games.eclass, and this is a popular game, whoever takes over maintenance should make fixing this a high priority. If I were taking over this game, I would immediately look into rewriting the ebuild to not use games.eclass. > IMO packages (not specific versions, but whole packages) should not > be removed if they work. Maybe masked, but no more. The problem is that defining "work" is too vague. I would rather not see something like this statement made into a distro-wide policy. William --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlSunL0ACgkQblQW9DDEZTis7ACgkDIkOJjrmIbLjWmfULKS76/L pKoAn0iruTrT3grq/v2kgi0JkgsOcglo =Uj+X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9--