From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1467C13877A for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:15:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72A45E08F9; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D723E08E8 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([84.197.67.29]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id e9Fa1o00E0dt3XY019FauR; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:15:34 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 11:15:28 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ssuominen@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-08-12 Message-ID: <20140813111528.3d25b74e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53DBDBF8.5060007@gentoo.org> References: <21463.26330.847055.224071@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20140731211239.0eb282cb@pomiot.lan> <53DBC854.9000607@gentoo.org> <53DBDBF8.5060007@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/uDfNExzZ.wlw=sFRRxhS_Vu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 4dc07065-ecb3-4470-aadd-93e10cc55394 X-Archives-Hash: 67cf8e11d1ff2ff4c7b7022b1f581155 --Sig_/uDfNExzZ.wlw=sFRRxhS_Vu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:27:04 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > The workflow seems to have been... >=20 > 1. Declare dynamic deps a /bug/ > 2. Tell people it will be disabled by force, without getting council > involved, and be quite rude about it... > 3. Work on some replacement for the feature, development done mostly > silently, > in a way most people didn't even know about it >=20 > When it should have been... >=20 > 1. Work on some replacement for the feature, announce some design > specifics of it in the ML, and explain it will be the replacement for > the dynamic deps > which will be disabled as redudant. Get people involved with good > spirits. >=20 > (The above message is written as approx. and is not to be taken > literally or as an offense of anykind. Just saying > there was no need to get people up in arms if the plan was to provide > replacing feature all along.) These workflows declare that we need a replacement, but that is not necessarily the plan; thus this workflow is a misrepresentation and just one possible scenario. Not sure about "up in arms" but most of the scenario has so far been discussion giving rise to ideas and motions. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/uDfNExzZ.wlw=sFRRxhS_Vu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT6yy0AAoJEPWZc8roOL/QF/4H/R83X0so7FGz03nYZi5W/o3r UiZuNcEHv25tzZuu3WPHi9bYldVomDcYtmpOrxPvvg0GEE8lDg4Ivqn/VgJoEXm5 zNuSFT97cMRjymeU5AO0YLxvJoq7D14frFArXCLDL8JNqob9/BMxOOXBU466nw+F XE3RrudwhhVGJoFpDHdCZxcep7EAg8lZg/4k1RRX7tEBdAxhfWeqyhBb4s4JmGLJ 84RWO44qXs6PfBb5TBQBiv34/06f2UydpjzkkovXUOG7k2Nf+7aXCG3FEJhRK/fQ SIlK3nB/Ww9Hrx8952QK5oJPdcD0n3XemGbrbMb+kKKjAFO+1BBQBO7Fkm5UiTA= =eW6w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/uDfNExzZ.wlw=sFRRxhS_Vu--