From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (unknown [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7C71381FA for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 15:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8342DE0A5B; Sat, 10 May 2014 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC82DE0A4F for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 15:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.55.127]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 0Fqr1o00U2khLEN06FqrGd; Sat, 10 May 2014 17:50:51 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 17:50:40 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: hasufell@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Tinderbox and building everything Message-ID: <20140510175040.6e7c7dc2@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <536E2087.3050409@gentoo.org> References: <20140509172925.29e3f212@gentoo.org> <536D13CF.2000403@gentoo.org> <2494968.RL10ZYJ7qd@localhost> <536E2087.3050409@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/F0DSqMYaD0OUUIryiev3PxB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 080bd857-02dd-45bc-bbeb-64b4550ff088 X-Archives-Hash: 9b3453a2875f6bb22cf5512aec79bd80 --Sig_/F0DSqMYaD0OUUIryiev3PxB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 May 2014 12:50:15 +0000 hasufell wrote: > I don't have a problem with your line of argumentation, I have a > problem with what the lead and "deputy lead" (or whatever the title > is called) said. I can't even take their comments seriously. It is way more serious if you consider my comment to be like driving a car when you haven't even fixed its brakes; there are different priorities involved here, one is much more important than the other. People that don't want to consider the full picture are welcome to call it silly, childish or non-serious; however, I'm serious about it and I hope the QA team (which that comment addresses) is serious as well. As for build failures; that boils down to either the maintainer fixing it as it is their problem, treecleaners cleaning it (but even they have a long backlog) or someone that is interested to fix it. But in no way it is QA's problem; as our task is Quality Assurance, which doesn't* imply fixing maintainer's problems (but does imply m-n / cleaning it). * We can try to help to some extent. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/F0DSqMYaD0OUUIryiev3PxB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTbkrQAAoJEPWZc8roOL/QSr0H/iF996ywoSuGPG0LGI5ntVaj 3JoEjVslgV9ky4O/LdPg/VFFRnVkwcDDwkodLowbSTpuhceyIn/45shrTl5aAeKv G5sxXW22EhiOgC7ShtGc8Vx3Hsfj1jp+HC7jBlf5L5IqJPtB2Ct+WjLOiyAUE7Pe OpRocPIVui5b0Ye7scouS5TJulNugon8I+hcyoHLO6nSHijlDiUPfOeZ8deuGHvS OvJZv+jaaSlJPxuOlRq4xBeX22QSeWPxiMppBhyczmyRihljp3h/FBoZyi24Uz/0 e47MPyPGxeYVqaqBD8AD7rZDaQSw0L5GuB750WOYjp9WHWevvHJCMsuBhyzD6FI= =p+v7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/F0DSqMYaD0OUUIryiev3PxB--