From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843E31387FD for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 863E5E0942; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC34EE0908 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id y10so6875032wgg.13 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:53:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=rQwFWMonzPst5qWZbrnK/0AJmLsYKRzOgFKxLorycLQ=; b=DGd1YjrvFmQVEmb7HqkgzNVtBM08dJYKqYnebQZjzbaaYpDC7vxrkDwPW4ipo7p56C nyPBNoD/d+D2TGHYLJuiYlbufGAwcf+PxlanPari28NsmAmMGhxqmSCZRdz2HNlfZRp0 Hc+BZ7/kTkVo7sM3oyN5Y2jvMcmh9sQJl+ZVpARayBysTws945of0Hvx4j2mx/A3ZY58 L36Sl4Laah94qveGFRycEziVDfKYeW9pGAcNLbkUuryP2PTrCIhL9fTkIitYnN3WPuQw HqKxZ0P3TizMfPzV7a2NLtN18cBJf+MBUBi251XsXF/7YSs5PqzzX+otucS+UE42DAsz AQjQ== X-Received: by 10.180.99.40 with SMTP id en8mr9398229wib.24.1396882406993; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc3-broo7-2-0-cust157.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [86.30.224.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ej7sm1902864wib.9.2014.04.07.07.53.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 15:53:19 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140407155319.1be8021a@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <1782441.9eOmMZnMZL@localhost> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <53414CD2.4030100@gentoo.org> <53416E80.40605@gentoo.org> <1782441.9eOmMZnMZL@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/x+eiygcL9xVsrtpMfvHbleG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: c931fa91-ffeb-4214-a803-94bc441ce373 X-Archives-Hash: ffaccb6704b4587e0942e49cd9fcdb05 --Sig_/x+eiygcL9xVsrtpMfvHbleG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:49:55 +0800 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Sunday 06 April 2014 18:10:56 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 06/04/14 15:47, hasufell wrote: > > > Andreas K. Huettel: > > > > 5) The council encourages teams maintaining central parts of > > > > Gentoo to accept new developers as team members and teach them > > > > the required knowledge and intricacies. We consider this > > > > important to ensure long-term continuity and increase the bus > > > > factor in critical areas. > > >=20 > > > Or don't accept them as team members in the first place, which is > > > perfectly fine if you can still contribute as a non-team member. > >=20 > > I agree, new developers shouldn't be allowed in the QA team, there > > should be some 5 year limit > > at least as safe kludge to avoid disrespect like this: >=20 > I wonder if you noticed that I've been a dev since 2004 ... >=20 > and disrespect, well, you actively work towards breaking things. I believe the problem is that your idea of what "broken" means has at best a coincidental connection with reality. It would help everyone involved if you could refer to policy documents such as PMS to justify your decisions. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/x+eiygcL9xVsrtpMfvHbleG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlNCu+QACgkQ96zL6DUtXhH4egCeJx9HJRvjEyp4ahQ+U6Ghj99o WPMAoIy7w3jUDHbSHdqH3Et1spjh38TG =ZVpa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/x+eiygcL9xVsrtpMfvHbleG--