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[76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id su13sm67904605oeb.9.2014.03.31.17.20.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by laptop (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:20:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:20:11 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140401002011.GA7386@laptop.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <5339AC69.3000307@gentoo.org> <2031188.fx5o40VAL2@iris> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6TrnltStXW4iwmi0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2031188.fx5o40VAL2@iris> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Archives-Salt: 903725f3-1557-4c03-9d20-3f1d82a2be34 X-Archives-Hash: c03f37cd5487ec186f0534eb2dfb1b95 --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:12:18PM -0400, Douglas James Dunn wrote: > On Monday, March 31, 2014 01:56:57 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 31/03/14 01:27 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny > > >=20 > > > wrote: > > >> Dnia 2014-03-31, o godz. 06:56:19 Joshua Kinard > > >>=20 > > >> napisa=C5=82(a): > > >>> In some respect, if all one cares about is free space on a disk > > >>> drive or how fast they can stream a movie, then the KiB/MiB > > >>> thing works. But if you play with bits and bytes from > > >>> time-to-time (and worry about byte alignment) or sometimes > > >>> fiddle w/ partition tables in a hex editor...you're going to > > >>> think in terms of powers of two. > > >=20 > > > KiB/MiB ARE powers of two. It is KB/MB which are powers of ten > > > (depending on who you talk to). > > >=20 > > > Drive sizes tend to be reported in MB/GB, and memory tends to be > > > reported in MiB, GiB (though they may or may not use those > > > abbreviations when doing so). > >=20 > > This is very much old "standard" vs new standard in terms of naming. > > For those of us that have been around long enough, Mega/Kilo/etc have > > always meant 1024 when addressing computational storage, as per for > > instance ANSI/IEEE Std 1084-1986. However, as people know this did > > become (or has always been) used ambiguously and so these terms were > > apparently deprecated in favour of MiB, KiB etc by the IEC starting at > > around 1996 and with formal adoption 1999 with IEC 60027-2 Amendment 2 > > (and expanded adoption in ISO/IEC IEC 80000-13:2008) > >=20 > > [*] source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix > >=20 > > +1 for usage of {K,M,G,T,...}iB as per standard. >=20 >=20 > +1, the IEC is the way everyone is going, for reference >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_binary_prefixes +1 for me too on this. William --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlM6BjsACgkQblQW9DDEZTjkAACfe0wsZJw506cOgRX+D1crhkG/ YlkAoLl/pZqdYXXtRAjTideX7coYHq+h =yb+l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6TrnltStXW4iwmi0--