From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FCE1393E9 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:58:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 664CDE09B3; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFC8CE0932 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from big_daddy.dol-sen.ca (S010600222de111ff.vc.shawcable.net [96.49.5.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dolsen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD8F333FC72 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:58:08 -0700 From: Brian Dolbec To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140331085808.03b501e1.dolsen@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <533949D3.9090709@gentoo.org> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org> <20140330174725.44191bc2@pomiot.lan> <5338A348.3010900@gentoo.org> <69FC69C3-7C44-4A9D-975C-0A3B498DAD97@gentoo.org> <20140331080746.25261b9a@pomiot.lan> <533949D3.9090709@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 43b6e96f-4c3f-47a2-86da-0e5a5030ee5c X-Archives-Hash: cf852413ab0b099a66c87d267a434e51 On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 06:56:19 -0400 Joshua Kinard wrote: > The problem is, those of us who grew up in those dark ages, who > played with 5.25" and 3.5" disks.... You forgot cassettes... oops, you are probably too young for those ;) For the many that don't even know what a cassette is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Cassette > we're a lost cause. No hope to > save us. It'll always be 1,024 bytes to a kilobyte. Anything else > is blasphemy. Save yourselves! > +1 > Besides, for an outdated standard, it still gets used a lot. Last I > checked, one can really only buy RAM in sizes of powers of two. And > the computer will report that size, in powers of two. Ditto for > L1/L2/L3 caches (look at the top of any kernel dmesg), etc. > > In some respect, if all one cares about is free space on a disk drive > or how fast they can stream a movie, then the KiB/MiB thing works. > But if you play with bits and bytes from time-to-time (and worry > about byte alignment) or sometimes fiddle w/ partition tables in a > hex editor...you're going to think in terms of powers of two. > > So both have their uses. Hence my suggestion of making it a > user-configurable setting. > +1 -- Brian Dolbec