From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D954E1387FD for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8514E0B07; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 165B3E0AD5 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot.lan (77-254-69-105.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.69.105]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2268F33FC4A; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 15:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:47:25 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: kumba@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140330174725.44191bc2@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/USfjg_O8C2YgmbCwr=hrfIW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 50e0a6b1-5d49-40cb-bb37-c5d7c9a5703a X-Archives-Hash: 9a0979545b6cf6b63046e3c2f260f75e --Sig_/USfjg_O8C2YgmbCwr=hrfIW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2014-03-30, o godz. 09:56:45 Joshua Kinard napisa=B3(a): > On 03/30/2014 05:23, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Micha=B3 G=F3rny w= rote: > >> > >> ISO/IEC prefixes [1,2]: KiB (kibibyte), MiB (mebi-), GiB (gibi-) > >> -- unambiguously 2^10, 2^20, 2^30 > >> > >> 'old' prefixes: kB (kilobyte), MB (mega-), GB (giga-) > >> -- can mean 10^3 or 2^10 etc. depending on author's intention > >> -- SI people tend to use 10^N for consistency with other units > >=20 > > To think that counting is the one situation where it is actually > > possible to have perfect precision, and we still manage to mess up the > > units... > >=20 > > I'm a bit torn on this. I'm an American, so I am supposed to do > > something ambiguous and arbitrary (can we count bytes in baker's > > dozens?). I'm also a Chemist, and never met an SI unit I didn't like. > >=20 > > We do need to keep in mind that the laws of physics dictate that > > boolean states can only be combined in groups of 8. That's a shame, > > because kibibits just rolls off the tongue and helps promote healthy > > fur. > >=20 > > Now I need to get back to sleep because I have a 97.7 kibimeter drive > > tomorrow... >=20 > I'm on the side of using the old prefixes. I just never groked the base-= 10 > forms. Since Gentoo is all about choice, why not make it configurable? > Maybe a USE flag or some other switch in make.conf that can be read by > Portage to let you choose if you want natural computer size presentations > (old prefix) or the human-friendly ones (new prefixes). We've obviously = got > the code for both forms in the referenced eclass, so just wrap it in a > conditional based on the chosen switch. That laves the debate up to which > value is the default. Don't you think this would be a serious overkill? If choice for this were to be provided, it should probably land in glibc's LC_MEASUREMENT. Though I'm not sure if that would help something since most of the countries seem to support the binary prefixes. At least the countries using the metric system. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/USfjg_O8C2YgmbCwr=hrfIW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTODyNXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2REJCMDdDQzRGMERBRDA2RUEwQUZFNDFC MDdBMUFFQUVGQjQ0NjRFAAoJELB6GurvtEZOIgkQAKPTi5Av0PCbHclhUicC6HCR tXJCNE1VjwssJOOOgRlx0T1Q1Fxn/SaEwuAw5aEPT4wTFNC6gMCS1hMKF7XG9L7t u01pQqws5nR1uap5g7XiRzn7t7ltBpJbT6U0nDio7404ADP2RIEW18DZSR4qiRO4 6YCYSdSJPg+tQBeh6rGrAtx2dgm0Z4VL6mq8KHrEdVvdd3XcDxdD9DL7va3m5jmb X3f1BnMXN7UKp+WN7La3AGQf0qlYdiEr9VoC5CIo6OoLR7SFhmEpRAuHSFePWi0P 2qI5f+pPdeeHpSPUFf95+nPEMZzLYZO53EupKSSS5NBUSof/mIjDkliRWEMyMwrR NKlyedCSniRwuXhPj+dafU1xPHjV7Fq/IljU8loKOuqayhGN9JmWTsJtH9cAkazH 2vEz0G0TednGXHO8B/YtioKb93iFaPvgLSQeFkM+VEaKX5COtsCOqUaKb1QRAE4G DAolSflc071mHvawghUFePbCc5dIzkdu3FcE1RWjjhzT/8+2KFRb66gJMr37OLgh FRAIxdJBps9POuwwgmn5spPo3dX6HNWfTMBgQsKoZVUsmRDgdki1cKiXE/ji3kNC B5jdd9FrKia52/IiOAl9mbuxzhPOmWM1V2gOtFVc8xRkrRIJ27yDKc3Ym6/l1vOj sBcf8tYc2oQHf3XDPC+y =ws88 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/USfjg_O8C2YgmbCwr=hrfIW--