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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: kumba@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:47:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140330174725.44191bc2@pomiot.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org>

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Dnia 2014-03-30, o godz. 09:56:45
Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org> napisał(a):

> On 03/30/2014 05:23, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ISO/IEC prefixes [1,2]: KiB (kibibyte), MiB (mebi-), GiB (gibi-)
> >>   -- unambiguously 2^10, 2^20, 2^30
> >>
> >> 'old' prefixes: kB (kilobyte), MB (mega-), GB (giga-)
> >>   -- can mean 10^3 or 2^10 etc. depending on author's intention
> >>   -- SI people tend to use 10^N for consistency with other units
> > 
> > To think that counting is the one situation where it is actually
> > possible to have perfect precision, and we still manage to mess up the
> > units...
> > 
> > I'm a bit torn on this.  I'm an American, so I am supposed to do
> > something ambiguous and arbitrary (can we count bytes in baker's
> > dozens?).  I'm also a Chemist, and never met an SI unit I didn't like.
> > 
> > We do need to keep in mind that the laws of physics dictate that
> > boolean states can only be combined in groups of 8.  That's a shame,
> > because kibibits just rolls off the tongue and helps promote healthy
> > fur.
> > 
> > Now I need to get back to sleep because I have a 97.7 kibimeter drive
> > tomorrow...
> 
> I'm on the side of using the old prefixes.  I just never groked the base-10
> forms.  Since Gentoo is all about choice, why not make it configurable?
> Maybe a USE flag or some other switch in make.conf that can be read by
> Portage to let you choose if you want natural computer size presentations
> (old prefix) or the human-friendly ones (new prefixes).  We've obviously got
> the code for both forms in the referenced eclass, so just wrap it in a
> conditional based on the chosen switch.  That laves the debate up to which
> value is the default.

Don't you think this would be a serious overkill?

If choice for this were to be provided, it should probably land
in glibc's LC_MEASUREMENT. Though I'm not sure if that would help
something since most of the countries seem to support the binary
prefixes. At least the countries using the metric system.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-30 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-27 13:40 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 12:50 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:26   ` hasufell
2014-03-29 13:29     ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:49       ` hasufell
2014-03-29 14:17         ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:30 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-29 14:07   ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 14:36     ` William Hubbs
2014-03-29 19:46       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-29 23:12       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30  0:37         ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30  1:35           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30  2:20             ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30  2:33               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 11:00                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 11:22                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 11:32                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 15:14                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 13:51                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 12:22             ` hasufell
2014-03-30 15:09               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-31 16:00             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-31 23:46               ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30  8:33 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30  8:43   ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30 11:52     ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30 14:07       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:05         ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-30 16:27         ` Michał Górny
2014-04-01 11:46         ` Ruud Koolen
2014-03-30  9:23   ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 13:56     ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 15:47       ` Michał Górny [this message]
2014-03-30 23:05         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 23:43           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31  3:13             ` Richard Yao
2014-03-31  6:07               ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 10:56                 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-31 15:44                   ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 17:27                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31 17:56                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-31 18:12                         ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-04-01  0:20                           ` William Hubbs
2014-04-01  6:32                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-31 15:58                   ` Brian Dolbec
2014-03-31 16:19                     ` [semi-OT] " Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30 15:35     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:27       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:31         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:39           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:48             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:59               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:01               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:05                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:40           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:44             ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-03-30 23:54               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:59                 ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-31  0:24                   ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-30 23:47         ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-04-06 12:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-04-06 12:47   ` hasufell
2014-04-06 12:52     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 12:53       ` hasufell
2014-04-06 15:10     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:29       ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-04-06 16:17         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:01           ` hasufell
2014-04-06 17:03             ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 17:22             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:48               ` hasufell
2014-04-06 18:19                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 15:08                   ` hasufell
2014-04-07 16:46                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 20:02             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-06 17:02         ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 21:22           ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 11:36             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 11:49               ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 12:36                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 12:44                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:58                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 13:30                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 15:09                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 16:36                     ` Chris Reffett
2014-04-07 18:25                       ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 18:45                       ` hasufell
2014-04-07 20:06                         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 20:01                   ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 14:52                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:30                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 15:31       ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-04-06 15:30         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 16:30             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:19         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:09       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 21:25         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 21:33           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07  8:00             ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 14:51               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 15:38                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 18:42             ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 17:33       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-07  5:47         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 11:51           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07  7:49       ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07  8:02         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07  8:26           ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 11:54             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:48               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 14:49               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 14:58                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:12                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-08  0:37               ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-08  4:32                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 14:53         ` Ciaran McCreesh

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