From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: kumba@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:47:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140330174725.44191bc2@pomiot.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org>
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Dnia 2014-03-30, o godz. 09:56:45
Joshua Kinard <kumba@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> On 03/30/2014 05:23, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ISO/IEC prefixes [1,2]: KiB (kibibyte), MiB (mebi-), GiB (gibi-)
> >> -- unambiguously 2^10, 2^20, 2^30
> >>
> >> 'old' prefixes: kB (kilobyte), MB (mega-), GB (giga-)
> >> -- can mean 10^3 or 2^10 etc. depending on author's intention
> >> -- SI people tend to use 10^N for consistency with other units
> >
> > To think that counting is the one situation where it is actually
> > possible to have perfect precision, and we still manage to mess up the
> > units...
> >
> > I'm a bit torn on this. I'm an American, so I am supposed to do
> > something ambiguous and arbitrary (can we count bytes in baker's
> > dozens?). I'm also a Chemist, and never met an SI unit I didn't like.
> >
> > We do need to keep in mind that the laws of physics dictate that
> > boolean states can only be combined in groups of 8. That's a shame,
> > because kibibits just rolls off the tongue and helps promote healthy
> > fur.
> >
> > Now I need to get back to sleep because I have a 97.7 kibimeter drive
> > tomorrow...
>
> I'm on the side of using the old prefixes. I just never groked the base-10
> forms. Since Gentoo is all about choice, why not make it configurable?
> Maybe a USE flag or some other switch in make.conf that can be read by
> Portage to let you choose if you want natural computer size presentations
> (old prefix) or the human-friendly ones (new prefixes). We've obviously got
> the code for both forms in the referenced eclass, so just wrap it in a
> conditional based on the chosen switch. That laves the debate up to which
> value is the default.
Don't you think this would be a serious overkill?
If choice for this were to be provided, it should probably land
in glibc's LC_MEASUREMENT. Though I'm not sure if that would help
something since most of the countries seem to support the binary
prefixes. At least the countries using the metric system.
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
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2014-03-27 13:40 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 12:50 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:26 ` hasufell
2014-03-29 13:29 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:49 ` hasufell
2014-03-29 14:17 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:30 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-29 14:07 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 14:36 ` William Hubbs
2014-03-29 19:46 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-29 23:12 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30 0:37 ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30 1:35 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 2:20 ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30 2:33 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 11:00 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 11:22 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 11:32 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 15:14 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 13:51 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 12:22 ` hasufell
2014-03-30 15:09 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-31 16:00 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-31 23:46 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30 8:33 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30 8:43 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30 11:52 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30 14:07 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:05 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-30 16:27 ` Michał Górny
2014-04-01 11:46 ` Ruud Koolen
2014-03-30 9:23 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 13:56 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 15:47 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2014-03-30 23:05 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 23:43 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31 3:13 ` Richard Yao
2014-03-31 6:07 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 10:56 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-31 15:44 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 17:27 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31 17:56 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-31 18:12 ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-04-01 0:20 ` William Hubbs
2014-04-01 6:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-31 15:58 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-03-31 16:19 ` [semi-OT] " Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30 15:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:27 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:39 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:59 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:01 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:40 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:44 ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-03-30 23:54 ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:59 ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-31 0:24 ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-30 23:47 ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-04-06 12:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-04-06 12:47 ` hasufell
2014-04-06 12:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 12:53 ` hasufell
2014-04-06 15:10 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:29 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-04-06 16:17 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:01 ` hasufell
2014-04-06 17:03 ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 17:22 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:48 ` hasufell
2014-04-06 18:19 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 15:08 ` hasufell
2014-04-07 16:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 20:02 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-06 17:02 ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 21:22 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 11:36 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 11:49 ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 12:36 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 12:44 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:58 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 13:30 ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 15:09 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 16:36 ` Chris Reffett
2014-04-07 18:25 ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 18:45 ` hasufell
2014-04-07 20:06 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 20:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 14:52 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:30 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 15:31 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-04-06 15:30 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 16:30 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:19 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:09 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 21:25 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 21:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 8:00 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 14:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 15:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 18:42 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 17:33 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-07 5:47 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 11:51 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 7:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 8:02 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 8:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 11:54 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:48 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 14:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 14:58 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-08 0:37 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-08 4:32 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 14:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
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