From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7957A1387FD for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:53:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF963E09C3; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2399FE09B2 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot.lan (77-254-69-105.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.69.105]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29ED233FDB9; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:52:40 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: patrick@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140330135240.3d1afcee@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: <1465789.1S5fJRlZoR@localhost> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> <1465789.1S5fJRlZoR@localhost> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/qVulhpcTfgEc=Lx15XAMyr4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: d2ca0969-774a-4195-9bb5-6b446d4f8d05 X-Archives-Hash: 743cb65b4582793153ea6e8fa1053c8b --Sig_/qVulhpcTfgEc=Lx15XAMyr4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2014-03-30, o godz. 16:43:20 Patrick Lauer napisa=B3(a): > On Sunday 30 March 2014 10:33:42 Micha=B3 G=F3rny wrote: > > Dnia 2014-03-27, o godz. 09:40:47 > >=20 > > "Anthony G. Basile" napisa=B3(a): > > > The council will be meeing on April 8, 2014 at 1900 UTC. Please bring > > > forward any agenda items you would like discussed. > >=20 > > Before we get into another revert war from patrick, I'd like to raise > > the following item: > >=20 > > - use of ISO/IEC binary prefixes vs ambiguous 'mega' prefixes > >=20 > > Quick explanation: > >=20 > > ISO/IEC prefixes [1,2]: KiB (kibibyte), MiB (mebi-), GiB (gibi-) > > -- unambiguously 2^10, 2^20, 2^30 > >=20 > > 'old' prefixes: kB (kilobyte), MB (mega-), GB (giga-) > > -- can mean 10^3 or 2^10 etc. depending on author's intention > > -- SI people tend to use 10^N for consistency with other units > >=20 >=20 > base-10 bytes make no sense. Sorry to disappoint you but most people in the world use base 10 as their natural system. Not that they've chosen to, it's just what you get teached in schools, and then what you meet in shops, government agencies, random companies and -- guess what -- even most of those computer programs output in base 10 unconditionally. Why would base-1024 prefixes make any sense when the numbers are base 10? Sorry to say that, but when I see 10-digit number, I'd rather shift the decimal comma and use base-10 gigabytes. Dividing by power of 1024 don't come easy in base 10, and most of the people don't waste time using a calculator just to use some fancy base-1024 unit that makes some sense in internal computer design issues. Though 1024 there is pretty arbitrary and makes real sense only in some contexts. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/qVulhpcTfgEc=Lx15XAMyr4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTOAWIXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2REJCMDdDQzRGMERBRDA2RUEwQUZFNDFC MDdBMUFFQUVGQjQ0NjRFAAoJELB6GurvtEZOJgwQAKnM33TqlGHgBYWkSv+8r4iE kp6CEBkKWozsgRMf2QxE7lVwSoteEf/qzVbTl9zcw0yWTYVYR5eKgnhIsuQXhAe2 Tbv38vD75aFP7jslEjr2SfQylbL5C6IP/dF5Dx4To2RSn/Z/RAvKwkjUacfmEFQm 7QE7eZKfLkfXS8Z7FW3+TgmKkTaG0vw7QMyEnKAjEUbKTfgewuhmAQiuwN/phkFl COzw8JsddXI6EzHcySXwR7GXFHaqAWXYaPrFpAPE2XB6i1PbBbWNRT+t7KyY55Q7 bWxHLWzK2ERNl7i5p2OE3U3eRzv1RXzlDdUMra9I0PiTd+HnULtPtekR0M3bOCH8 Ddmyt8SDn3mQS4MAr3rVqMUIwct2DvotJ8vEjsOsAOATGrnb3nkc7KlNDTO0vL3W Pfjr10FnbzX5SoxLpqNaImQoEv2PCN30st++h9ZR+w60Kdt+BPsNw6hNTbn7qRWH 0DNwrDobh5WELNj4koQlW3FMAnRYK8O5AG6x6XcnJlHAjxHYXKe7M9hWkB/+64N+ 7EqgSj6McWkF74GDu8NfA7V5mgsSLTwH0lWJPvUS9nLwa9Ts9UU5W/l7Gvo1+0gc 2j60phRju67HZQ96VLzdzNeBtKoE1I9GHqq3NXCHdk1XrxCKkpOOyAPwUUHp/i+N 5V5NVTm4wbCn8VwYvXUK =Nm9+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/qVulhpcTfgEc=Lx15XAMyr4--