From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3B01387FD for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD432E09EF; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D146E09DF for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id i7so7854290oag.33 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:20:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=QpAQXwHD41zy6ZTAE1IHELYAsuTOvZe0FJCv74hi4Ig=; b=gDPvGZmj6kSJlPU1Q+pafhFvq5N2IX0PhQXp7DY+4CkyfWdkv8UyVkdqqcmdUzPaBK 1b2twNdK/DaTdZI4BiDf5DphlZv+u4yuLjNWUXspQLG2qcVReCy5ay9HmUWNrwIhgk4a s1P5ET81OXBp8zsPyShWBVjuta0yEd1a7LZ3YXLBcPW1Le7dkuMQ7gj7PngnLhFfJPOt /icmAQUGcl0RzxzJ6F/+O9GRQWH7qeNBjtYCq0PCtk1wb6BL5KrRl1wEDZCf24in5MQl 1StfY20BEMvX6KZyYh4s1RpFPdGzPAzADdFgXqemKvAGq0DKRg3Z7/pFwu+J+08AKuJO A1gg== X-Received: by 10.60.159.137 with SMTP id xc9mr14543267oeb.31.1396146039168; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zm8sm16867025obc.16.2014.03.29.19.20.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by laptop (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 21:20:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 21:20:34 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Message-ID: <20140330022034.GA1151@laptop.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <5336D386.6080609@opensource.dyc.edu> <20140329143634.GA31923@laptop.home> <201403300012.55229.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140330003709.GA733@laptop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Archives-Salt: 99bc5cd4-a4d4-40db-9ee4-2e66b15a9c18 X-Archives-Hash: eb4bab24adada87cee4b55890ed5086a --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 09:35:32PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, William Hubbs wrot= e: > > Some how we need to focus on getting people to respect each other and > > the policies we already have, and quite frankly, if they won't do that, > > removing them from the community. >=20 > Alas, we cannot afford to drive people away any more than we can > afford to let them drive others away... >=20 > I really wish that devs would get over their differences and just talk > about their ideas. You don't need anybody's "permission" to do many > things around here. That doesn't mean that it isn't nice (and more > importantly wise) to at least ask for some feedback before striking > off on your own. >=20 > The only clean solution is for all of us to grow up a little more... Rich and all, I appologise if I came off harsh in my last email; that really wasn't the point. It was just frustration coming through. Rich, I agree, I'm just not sure how to make that happen. I don't think though that the answer is more policies/red tape. William --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlM3f3IACgkQblQW9DDEZTh+cwCgrAPUKqJlsHh7gGNdeTnxjtFJ VYUAn2zfG/IhchJJQ4E+j0oAt3ueD3Ul =PzoK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF--