Re: [gentoo-project] Metastructure: reorganization (Was: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-11-12)

["Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>]

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Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2013, 23:15:45 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
> >>>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Andreas K Huettel wrote:
> > If you look at our metastructure page, it's a bit of a mess. Some
> > careful rearrangement might make sense... How about this:
> > 
> > 1) top level project "Gentoo Programming Resources"
> > 
> >  - title in table is wrong, should be (according to project page)
> > 
> > "Gentoo Resources for Programming Languages", or just "Programming
> > Languages"
> > 
> >  - has subprojects ada, haskell, ruby
> > 
> > proposed action: move java, lisp, perl, php, python in there as
> > additional subprojects
> 
> GLEP 39 defines a project as "a group of developers working towards a
> goal".
> 
> I don't see what we would gain by collecting several unrelated
> projects under an umbrella TLP. Are there any resources that can be
> shared, or is there a large overlap between devs working in the
> different language projects? In short, what problem are you trying to
> solve?

Actually for asking this question you've picked the best example...

Imagine the poor KDE guys sorting out the language bindings for Ruby, Python, 
Java, and C#. Each comes with its own approach to solve the same problems, and 
with its own completely disjunct eclass syntax. 

Imagine updating your system after a while and then remembering that you need 
to run python-cleaner and perl-updater (and what was the syntax there again?).

Maybe there isn't too much overlap right now, but people talking to each other 
would certainly help, and the problems are certainly related.


This is the most important thing, and similar ideas also apply to the two 
other proposals. (PR, CoC enforcement and Ops are certainly related tasks?)


There's two additional motivations from my side. 

One is my stereotypical German preference for cleanlyness and order. Or maybe 
it's just that part of leaving a professional impression is also that you 
don't just have a messy list of unordered projects. 

The other one is that on the long run we might reconsider the role of umbrella 
project leads. I'm not so sure yet what we should do there though... 
Strengthen, give them tasks? some loose oversight that subprojects follow 
formalities? Abandon?

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/


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