From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7D61381F3 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80C70E0AB0; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D8249E0A01 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (c-75-73-165-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.165.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dberkholz) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9B8E33E761 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 14:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 09:59:41 -0500 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees) Message-ID: <20130702145941.GA9610@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> References: <1372625765.17485.18.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <20130701005911.GA1936@linux1> <51D14CC1.9080500@gentoo.org> <51D1650F.5070305@gentoo.org> <51D1BB9F.9060600@gentoo.org> <51D1CC91.4060009@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51D1CC91.4060009@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ff585ca8-7d27-4510-9308-8ad31906a362 X-Archives-Hash: 4105c46466e486cc7a9c2e6a5edd71f8 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20:38 Mon 01 Jul , Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n wrote: > Rich Freeman schrieb: > > First, most people aren't going to quit over this. The maintainer=20 > > doesn't have to do anything but not actively revert changes made by=20 > > the project teams. >=20 > I don't say that they quit altogether. Just that they may leave that=20 > particular ebuild in portage alone (and continue in an overlay as was=20 > suggested) because they don't want to have anything to do with the=20 > changes that were forced upon them. I might instead suggest that people own the code they've written, even=20 if it's just part of an ebuild. If I run into a Prefix bug in an ebuild,=20 I'm going to ask the team that actually knows something about Prefix to=20 look into it. Same should hold true for any other code =E2=80=94 you add it= , you=20 accept the responsibility of dealing with it. It seems to me that there's a couple of issues that really bother people=20 here: - The maintenance burden of any additional code; and - Overriding a maintainer's decisions on existing code. My suggestion helps to deal with the former, while I believe Rich has=20 made a good point for the latter as part of larger changes that are=20 either council-supported or have general consensus. When we voted GLEP=20 39 in ourselves (or joined while it existed), we agreed to respect the=20 decisions of the leadership and structure we chose. --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux Analyst, RedMonk --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlHS6t0ACgkQXVaO67S1rttPTgCeNS2uB2ot0nZQHwbNiZKe3SV7 gtIAniNP3FoSnnq7E3nro+jZFuVbqLMM =r1f2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/--