From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: rich0@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees)
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:12:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130701221223.GB4270@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_kSGegtUr6zq2MnvEYw3JUDVm8paCN+3vGowr7GK_WVCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Rich,
I think you missed a lot of points I was making.
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 03:21:25PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:08 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:37:57PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> >> hasufell schrieb:
> >> >> They can each have their own ebuild in portage. I do not think that overlays
> >> >> are the solution here.
> >> >
> >> > That idea is so bad I hope we will never see it happen.
> >>
> >> That's what GLEP 39 explictly allows.
> >
> > I have to agree on this point. glep 39 allows, and should allow
> > competing projects.
>
> GLEP 39 ALLOWS me to make a competing apache ebuild, or a competing
> amd64 arch. It doesn't FORCE me to do so.
>
> If all I want to do is introduce some optional feature distro-wide
> that doesn't impact anybody who doesn't want to use it (aside from
> trivial numbers of inodes), then I shouldn't HAVE to fork every
> package in the tree to do it.
I am agreeing with you on this. I never said that glep 39 forces you to
do anything.
> I'm a developer because I'm also a user. Nobody pays me to work on
> ebuilds - I'm scratching my itch. Nobody is asking maintainers to
> scratch somebody else's itch - they just have to stay out of the way
> when somebody else chooses to do so.
Agreed; this is all about cooperation instead of being territorial.
> > By the nature of being a source based distribution, we can offer a
> > uniform user experience without being a poor copy of any binary
> > distribution, and that uniform user experience could be far more
> > flexable than any binary distribution.
>
> Absolutely, but that flexibility depends on a certain amount of
> standardization.
I'm not contesting this. Honestly I'n not quite sure how to respond to
anything else in this message because I agree with you as I said in my
manifesto. I feel like maintainers should cooperate with other
projects/teams/developers.
William
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-17 18:46 [gentoo-project] Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees) hasufell
2013-06-17 18:59 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-17 19:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-17 19:26 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-17 19:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-23 21:28 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-23 22:59 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-24 22:27 ` hasufell
2013-06-25 5:37 ` Matt Turner
2013-06-25 7:11 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-25 8:14 ` Tony Vroon
2013-06-25 8:57 ` hasufell
2013-06-28 21:01 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-06-28 22:33 ` hasufell
2013-06-29 6:14 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-06-29 12:10 ` [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2013-06-29 17:20 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-29 17:41 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-29 17:44 ` hasufell
2013-06-29 20:35 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30 1:57 ` Matthew Summers
2013-06-30 8:48 ` Michael Weber
2013-06-30 10:40 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 11:08 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30 11:18 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 18:52 ` William Hubbs
2013-06-30 20:56 ` Brian Dolbec
2013-07-01 0:59 ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 1:20 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 9:32 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 10:01 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:16 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 11:36 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:47 ` Markos Chandras
2013-07-01 16:06 ` Arun Raghavan
2013-07-01 17:25 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:39 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 18:38 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-02 14:59 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-07-03 11:26 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 15:26 ` Ben de Groot
2013-07-01 15:49 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 17:26 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:51 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 18:37 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 19:08 ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 19:21 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 22:12 ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-07-01 22:46 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 19:32 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 19:51 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 20:04 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 9:33 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-06 0:08 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-07-06 0:31 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-07 16:14 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-07-06 10:34 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [OT] " Tom Wijsman
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