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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 19:59:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130701005911.GA1936@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1372625765.17485.18.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca>

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On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 01:56:05PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote:
> Overall, I agree with both sides
> 
> 1) What Chí-Thanh said is true:
> 
> Yes, cooperation is better. But the method how to achieve cooperation is
> convincing through arguments,...
> 
> 2) What Rich said is also true:
> 
> Maintaining a package is a privilege conditioned
> on using that power in alignment with our philosophies, not a right.
> 
> 
> The main problem here is finding the right balance between convincing
> (first choice) and mandating (if convincing fails).  Unfortunately, like
> anywhere else in this world, not everyone will agree on where that
> balance point should be.  There will always be extremists on both ends
> of the debate.  It is the developers votes that will determine which end
> of the spectrum the balance point will be.  It is also prudent for them
> to vote in someone that can see both ends of the spectrum ;)

Nothing is an absolute. I'm not saying that anyone who doesn't like
something a maintainer does should be able to force the maintainer to do
what they want.

Chithanh, please stop me and correct me if I am wrong.

The way I understand what you are saying is that you believe the
maintainers have absolute authority over what happens with their
packages. So if I file a bug against a package requesting a change that
I think would bring the package more in line with the gentoo philosophy for
example and explain to the maintainer why I think that is the case and
He closes my bug invalid or wontfix, you feel that I should not take my
concerns to qa or the council. correct?

What happens if I am actually a co-maintainer but another co-maintainer
blocks my changes?

imo there should be, and is, an arbitration path for this sort of thing.

William


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-17 18:46 [gentoo-project] Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees) hasufell
2013-06-17 18:59 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-17 19:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-17 19:26   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-17 19:38   ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-23 21:28 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-23 22:59   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-24 22:27     ` hasufell
2013-06-25  5:37       ` Matt Turner
2013-06-25  7:11       ` Michał Górny
2013-06-25  8:14         ` Tony Vroon
2013-06-25  8:57         ` hasufell
2013-06-28 21:01   ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-06-28 22:33 ` hasufell
2013-06-29  6:14   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-06-29 12:10 ` [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2013-06-29 17:20 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-29 17:41   ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-29 17:44     ` hasufell
2013-06-29 20:35   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30  1:57     ` Matthew Summers
2013-06-30  8:48       ` Michael Weber
2013-06-30 10:40     ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 11:08       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30 11:18         ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 18:52           ` William Hubbs
2013-06-30 20:56             ` Brian Dolbec
2013-07-01  0:59               ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-07-01  1:20                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01  9:32                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 10:01                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:16                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 11:36                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:47                           ` Markos Chandras
2013-07-01 16:06                           ` Arun Raghavan
2013-07-01 17:25                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:39                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 18:38                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-02 14:59                                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-07-03 11:26                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 15:26                         ` Ben de Groot
2013-07-01 15:49                         ` hasufell
2013-07-01 17:26                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:51                             ` hasufell
2013-07-01 18:37                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 19:08                                 ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 19:21                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 22:12                                     ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 22:46                                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 19:32                                 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 19:51                                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 20:04                                     ` hasufell
2013-07-01  9:33                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-06  0:08 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-07-06  0:31   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-07 16:14     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-07-06 10:34   ` [gentoo-project] Re: [OT] " Tom Wijsman

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