From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18651381F3 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68321E09E4; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-f41.google.com (mail-yh0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFA32E09CB for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z20so2190302yhz.0 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=2D54zzwDJpWmpr1BG+pkuFUYcFysCan4aPS0uWQmnVk=; b=p/HfVzVA43CeO782rY+LRRJIkOheV+b5mOR8blqLUuMEmyeS88XNR3IIkEwsK0ugWn RxDenbLcSSEY7xks+irACNwk2vAi008s0McJ+9hKVxTCeEaxPGRkTQw3cNwpkqS0NVXM +KSbpmd0BIatOtyBwmp1SGMbPtZWoBo1QNI5i9s/R6XqCIDCU6JhMWbSish7JWBjwbeu 63rx3Z5eFfkGjou4KyRkKEWyfjTM+FnDdQ+iaPWDf8cQojtL5P/ORT5jSRTHM21KU6gz rSeVaYBucYnlDwwwASGUCJ8RJSZmAlwzGmDeonP3ugpGzPyNIJv9tTMd9r6ADm5Yc3iJ VuTg== X-Received: by 10.236.67.72 with SMTP id i48mr10820767yhd.237.1372618339744; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e69sm27756945yhl.3.2013.06.30.11.52.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Jun 2013 11:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 30 Jun 2013 13:52:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 13:52:15 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: chithanh@gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees) Message-ID: <20130630185215.GA968@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: chithanh@gentoo.org, gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <51BF597B.6060600@gentoo.org> <51CF1759.10903@gentoo.org> <51CF4529.7010307@gentoo.org> <51D011C1.2040606@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ffe9bcdc-89b9-47f0-ba26-d3d641e23a04 X-Archives-Hash: 750bf6a8ca07c778f8f0edfa27de01b1 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 07:18:49AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n > wrote: > > Yes, cooperation is better. But the method how to achieve cooperation is > > convincing through arguments, not forcing changes against the wishes of= the > > maintainer. >=20 > There we disagree. Maintaining a package is a privilege conditioned > on using that power in alignment with our philosophies, not a right. > I wouldn't force the maintainer to actively support any particular > config, but I wouldn't allow them to actively interfere with the > properly-supported work of any project. I'll leave it at that - many > will agree, many will disagree. I'm going to be completely up-front > about my beliefs here, and I'm eager to see how the majority view is > reflected in votes in the hope that the community can pick one > direction and start moving in it either way. I'm going to agree with Rich. Maintaining a package in Gentoo is a privilege; not a right. Maintainers do not own the packages; we as a distribution own them. Packages should be maintained in a manor that is in line with the gentoo philosophy. William --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHQfl8ACgkQblQW9DDEZTjRpACgqpXplB8L+72ofzJV9de56W2/ jCcAn14zLoC9TsANQ7Qyc2CoAyxBHrJC =5Nvk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN--