From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council nominations
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:22:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201306231923.02425.dilfridge@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130616132433.1d3f4a5d@devil>
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Am Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, 13:24:33 schrieb Agostino Sarubbo:
> I'm using the same thread, I'd like to nominate:
>
[...]
> dilfridge
Thank you, I accept.
As for a manifesto....
1) Let me quote GLEP 39: "If the council does a lousy job handling global
issues (or has no global vision), vote out the bums." Note that this talks
about a "global vision"? That's actually right now what Gentoo is missing
most. I'm not claiming that I alone will provide it, but I am convinced that
it's the Council's job to collectively do that.
1a) Consequence: the council should do more than just handing down decisions
on stone tablets from the mountain. I suggest we add something else that the
council can vote on, along the lines of a "policy recommendation". Here's an
example for such a recommendation, see also below: "With respect to adding
systemd unit files, maintainers should not refuse to cooperate as long as
someone volunteers to do the resulting work." Since this is a recommendation,
developers are free to ignore it. However, it would make the viewpoint of Your
Elected Council clear, and the topic may be revisited if necessary at the next
month's meeting for drafting up some stone tablets.
1b) Consequence: even if the council is a reactive body, since any developer
can bring issues before the council, I will be happy to do so whenever I see
fit, and I hope my prospective council colleagues will do the same.
1c) Consequence: in my opinion, the council has far too often "decided not to
decide anything" in the past.
2) I do NOT see Gentoo's primary purpose as a "metadistribution". That's just
a way of saying "we can't be bothered to work together". We are able to
provide a great distribution to our users without the additional help of
Funtoo, Pentoo, Sabayon, ...
Of course, we should continue cooperation and good working relationship with
our "downstreams", but that's not an excuse for NOT fixing things in Gentoo
itself.
3) I am not using systemd, zfs, or paludis. I'm even trying to avoid nepomuk
and akonadi. Nevertheless, as you all know, Gentoo is about choice! So, as
long as this does not inflict undue efforts, we should all try hard to
cooperate with other developers contributing to Gentoo, even if their projects
seem a bit odd to us. Our users deserve maximum flexibility and the offer of
bleeding-edge software. (The entire discussion about adding unit files to
packages or about how to get rid of them in the installation if not needed is
in my opinion just plain ridiculous.) Which gets me to...
4) Please remember. We're talking about a Linux distribution. This has - in
terms of organization - more in common with a company than with a religion!
(Which also means that if you try to burn someone at the stake you'll get
kicked out fast. As a consequence...)
5a) I fully support Markos' initiative to get devrel on track and more active
again. We *must* get away from the current abrasive culture.
5b) I wish we had a similar resurrection initiative for QA. Any volunteers?
6) I have recently volunteered to become part of devrel. Should I be elected
as council member, then I will let that activity rest until the end of my
council term. Not because I see a conflict of interests, but because I just
don't have the time for both.
Let me quote Rick's manifesto at the end,
"No one pays me to work on gentoo, I'm not a software developer (etc) by
trade, I'm here on my own because I love gentoo and I want to see it
improve, and I believe everyone who reads the mailing lists will agree
there is a lot of room for that improvement at this time."
Cheers!
Andreas
--
Dr. Andreas K. Huettel
Institute for Experimental and Applied Physics
University of Regensburg
D-93040 Regensburg
Germany
tel. +49 151 241 67748 (mobile)
e-mail andreas.huettel@ur.de
http://www.akhuettel.de/research/
http://www.physik.uni-r.de/forschung/huettel/
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-16 2:17 [gentoo-project] Council nominations Ryan Hill
2013-06-16 11:24 ` Agostino Sarubbo
2013-06-16 18:50 ` William Hubbs
2013-06-30 21:56 ` William Hubbs
2013-06-17 10:51 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2013-06-17 14:51 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-17 15:03 ` Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon
2013-06-17 15:41 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-07-05 20:33 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-06-17 21:43 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-18 12:57 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-06-20 21:51 ` Matthew Summers
2013-06-18 17:41 ` Sven Vermeulen
2013-06-20 15:25 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-06-23 17:22 ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2013-06-24 16:15 ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-06-25 1:25 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-06-27 7:45 ` Fabian Groffen
2013-06-28 17:43 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-16 12:40 ` hasufell
2013-06-16 20:18 ` Zac Medico
2013-06-18 3:46 ` Tim Harder
2013-06-24 22:39 ` Brian Dolbec
2013-06-27 17:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-06-16 16:29 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2013-06-16 20:06 ` Johannes Huber
2013-06-16 20:41 ` Theo Chatzimichos
2013-06-17 16:18 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-17 17:21 ` [gentoo-project] Questioning/Interviewing council nominees hasufell
2013-06-17 17:31 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-17 17:37 ` hasufell
2013-06-17 18:16 ` Roy Bamford
2013-06-17 18:39 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-17 20:10 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-17 21:02 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-17 18:00 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-06-23 19:57 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-17 18:52 ` [gentoo-project] Re: Council nominations Petteri Räty
2013-06-17 19:21 ` hasufell
2013-06-18 8:58 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-18 10:55 ` Petteri Räty
2013-06-18 11:54 ` hasufell
2013-06-23 3:06 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-06-25 9:43 ` Marien Zwart
2013-06-29 21:57 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-06-16 19:59 ` [gentoo-project] " Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-16 20:48 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-06-17 4:26 ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-24 16:19 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-17 7:20 ` Arun Raghavan
2013-06-18 9:15 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2013-06-21 14:20 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2013-06-17 21:45 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-22 22:05 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-06-24 10:10 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-18 13:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-07-01 7:07 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-06-26 9:59 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-27 19:03 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-06-28 18:00 ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-28 23:08 ` Petteri Räty
2013-06-29 0:16 ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2013-06-29 2:55 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-29 13:51 ` [gentoo-project] Klondike's Manifesto was (was: Council nominations) Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2013-06-29 19:41 ` Matt Turner
2013-06-29 23:28 ` Johannes Huber
2013-06-29 23:57 ` [gentoo-project] Klondike's Manifesto was Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30 0:04 ` Johannes Huber
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