From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40EC1381F3 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 415FEE0993; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:20:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 958FDE0990 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x17so5003622vbf.24 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=+buG7wqNUpy4QRgQDdY6JxBFwFpyAfEgbKxNAzf3Rjo=; b=i+yT6svhgp+ReT1bTxcvGQtLP3NLEjaTiKYEpjKWjnTnOCGn+1er3HjVpJ7VWMwtIU TlLzW3NRD4AbglGU4Qk7F5n42TnfVslVJutuD2EGbMBqAS2ST4Sb21cYxwyiZ7XQmr8P AmRoRneOCypnsRkZzXEAh13g4UZh70iISGecEpAjHOxcC+0QnMheboANtm3rghqX87QV 939u1YcNTa4X2DzFuMfl3pjQVDmidcKFHh6BPFCAbBKAYTwB8n+/qhOyFSKY9zwaGRfJ Wvb0lUPzoPnR03R8+rkc3Xma/lH9TJ7jCLKqvcd8F4b4cfewlu7nxglwgGjRi3dSc9+F oixQ== X-Received: by 10.220.162.200 with SMTP id w8mr3732804vcx.90.1371759616729; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm2277370vev.1.2013.06.20.13.20.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:20:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:20:12 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] On the way Devrel is constituted Message-ID: <20130620202012.GA23622@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <51C21229.9070105@gentoo.org> <20130619205029.44e1a3a3@gentoo.org> <20130619231740.5578d316@gentoo.org> <51C2DD11.7050007@gentoo.org> <20130620190330.GA23427@linux1> <51C360FD.30408@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51C360FD.30408@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: ce1ecc93-5ca9-4e6a-b7ce-b89a0f61073d X-Archives-Hash: c75a2cf80f559b47cabca6ba9618a89f --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:07:25PM +0200, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy= =E1=BB=85n wrote: > These rules sound all ok, but which real problem are they intended to sol= ve? Don't ask me, I was just going through the thread trying to come up with something that most people would agree with. As far as I am aware there isn't a problem with devrel/qa abusing power. > If not, what indication exists that makes such abuse of power appear like= ly > in the future? =20 I haven't seen one myself. > If such a thing has never occured, and there is nothing which indicates > that it is going to occur, then I think we can drop the rule #2 as it > introduces only unnecessary bureaucracy. If we start seeing actual abuse = of > power then requiring approval of Council for QA/devrel leads or actions c= an > be reconsidered. =20 If you drop rule 2 from that list, the way I see it, you are just stating how we are operating now which is fine with me. William --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHDY/wACgkQblQW9DDEZTgybQCgpqYAptPQ2RGZghNA8mEz0FC2 VT0AoK8oYtFV6/ruviymtUUN2NxNK0Te =v4OX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1--