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[76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c20sm17526549oez.4.2013.06.17.09.09.08 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@gmail.com> Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:09:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:09:07 -0500 From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Introducing an optional files directory in the Portage tree with an embedded install condition and individual maintainers. (was Re: [gentoo-project] Proposal for add-on file utility (run after emerge update)) Message-ID: <20130617160907.GA4531@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20130616161419.1afb1b1b@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <51BDD104.4030502@gentoo.org> <CAA2qdGU_nNaro-=UxVaJY_8y1H7tQhC0odE8JaVNfTEvuTUgRQ@mail.gmail.com> <51BE0205.7080704@gentoo.org> <20130616203255.5a44f6b8@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130616204105.7227437a@gentoo.org> <20130616212244.41660b57@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <CAGfcS_m-oc7nUANv_ms1d+OjF9vqNO58H8DajSJrdROYFPmE8A@mail.gmail.com> <20130617000216.683df5e4@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <CAG2jQ8hsHrxXsVkNpXm__Br2LYpz9RjEi-A2gvy5TVABkvGBDw@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <CAG2jQ8hsHrxXsVkNpXm__Br2LYpz9RjEi-A2gvy5TVABkvGBDw@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 5a10ffe9-19f8-4359-bdf3-e2c40140d156 X-Archives-Hash: a927da9b89b8c5956dfecf5094afca18 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 02:38:00PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 16 June 2013 23:02, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:31:10 -0400 > > Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> > >> wrote: > >> > Either by denoting USE flags in USE as special _or_ introducing a > >> > separate OUSE variable. > >> > > >> > They don't have to be "openrc", "cron", "systemd" but could be like > >> > "init-scripts", "cron-files", "systemd-units"; to not collide with > >> > any existing USE flags, if any. > >> > > >> > Do they start to depend on each other? Why? > >> > >> Bottom line is that in order to accomplish any of this we need to > >> expand PMS to specify a syntax, implement this stuff in portage, and > >> then start modifying all our ebuilds so that heaven-forbid you don't > >> get an openrc script installed if you don't set USE=3Dopenrc. > >> > >> I don't think any of this is worth it for a one block text file. > > >=20 > I believe this proposal aims to workaround the "we can't work > together" problem than actually providing > real benefit to the way we maintain packages. Yes, it sounds that way to me as well. We really need to find ways to work together/compromise instead of using proposals like this one to get around the fact that some of us don't want to work together. 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