Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units

[Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>]

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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 00:59:15 +0430
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:

> So users and other developers can choose what they like more.

I don't think they will like half of the files being in the package X
and the other half being in a different package X-systemd and yet
another half being stuffed in a collective package systemd-units.

Oh, and not to forget about X-openrc, X-cron, X-..., ... and so on.

Putting the maintenance burden on users is the worst thing we can do.

> I believe QA has no authority to (functionally) change packages,
> although they can p.mask whatever they consider unacceptable.

Define "unacceptable", maybe they'll mask the X-whatever packages in the
future because it has turned into a mess; such a mess we can't easily
migrate away from, because we first have to start another 5 threads...

> Besides, I do not think that it makes sense here to distinguish
> between individual developers maintaining individual packages, herds
> (package maintenance groups) and projects.

They were probably just examples; I don't advocate the idea he
explained there, but I'm against all the alternatives that are being
suggested. They might make sense from a "making maintainers happy"
perspective, but in practice it just damages the user experience.

> This is something I fundamentally do not agree with. Gentoo is not a
> team that works together.

It's not like in a sports game, but we are people working together; we
may not pursue the same thing, but we should pursue what is best for
our users. Whatever way you go, the users will end up experiencing it.

> There is no set direction (or "stream").

Then why do we have an about page documenting one? There is.

> Gentoo is a collection of individuals which each work on a small part
> of it, and the interference in that is kept to the necessary minimum,
> mostly by Council enacted rules. I would be very unhappy if that were
> to change.

You can't avoid interference, it is bound to happen sooner or later;
when it does, Council shouldn't be implied, but rather be the exception.

I would be very unhappy if Gentoo only ran on rules and silence;
these not only affect our developers, but even more also our users.

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With kind regards,

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