From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B791381F3 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41049E0848; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C9B5E0848 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id va7so13895347obc.27 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:26:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=UNICTrkQeE+x1b6pZu5qKLbzkYqwm31UqAsODMJYKwM=; b=H7MHHiXfImE/wOm9isxtbiSwazoRkKefAR/+1tkMeJEvjh2O91al+5UXNFEVDtB4WK GO5ceYWRLuPUA6TMeWd3KY2Q/w1Z8Yl3Yhcaq2cJBH2xyegg8pM19vkFuj4dJywFAhGP 7VhogwHeaq3bvmdV2GDmHw9fRDN+jE7M4zO/CyyhQEaWUfvzPwJWM7w8BWKBqKq11mD+ 3v+rclqHL+2E+D5sSCVXaisYR5RpRdoclq37RVv0XNZVJ+rBTODwj/XHJM6wo+QwxS6o cLUNR2PVppQ9L7My7P5o5gnFpG4J1qFtpjJyLI4HLJfgfPRFM1xLlR4fZG8mce4rMxzz 0kEw== X-Received: by 10.182.128.71 with SMTP id nm7mr16733592obb.12.1371079590748; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wx1sm35867939obb.8.2013.06.12.16.26.27 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:26:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:26:26 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units Message-ID: <20130612232626.GA25338@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20130612162535.570c2bc0@gentoo.org> <51B898F9.5070105@gentoo.org> <20920.40688.601476.657961@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20920.41908.440583.378650@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20130612185106.0f2b0120@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: b77bc32e-95b5-49af-9f49-c1b3cd10cc47 X-Archives-Hash: b1d5fc3e9abfe756154b6c27b01d470b --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 07:35:53PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: > This entire thread proves how immature we are as a developer community > and that we rather > ignore our users for the sake of our interests and stubbornness. And > of course this is a classic example > of a non-existing or bad leadership. Markos, you are absolutely right. There are developers in this distro who will ignore users, and other developers, in order to pursue their personal agendas. You are also right about over-all leadership in this distribution. Parts of it are non-existent and parts of it are afraid to make controvercial decisions, so things have not gotten done. William --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlG5A6IACgkQblQW9DDEZTiwPQCfaBMvt2JFhDdZz1Rvm9T84vpJ K1YAn1xY8S9zJiziUa3SRrsZUwKBNR+v =LY08 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--