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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:26:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130612232626.GA25338@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2jQ8hS-zkUJWPW7pdWU24tAif-79SMrNXH5duJbeGf2UAdmg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 07:35:53PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
> This entire thread proves how immature we are as a developer community
> and that we rather
> ignore our users for the sake of our interests and stubbornness. And
> of course this is a classic example
> of a non-existing or bad leadership.

Markos,

you are absolutely right. There are developers in this distro who will
ignore users, and other developers, in order to pursue their personal
agendas.

You are also right about over-all leadership in this distribution. Parts
of it are non-existent and parts of it are afraid to make controvercial
decisions, so things have not gotten done.

William


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-12 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-12 11:05 [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 11:17 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-12 11:24   ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 11:29     ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-12 20:22     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-12 11:26   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-06-12 11:30     ` hasufell
2013-06-12 11:22 ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-06-12 11:26   ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 12:20   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-12 13:59     ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 14:07       ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-12 14:16       ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-06-12 14:25         ` Michał Górny
2013-06-12 14:52           ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 15:41             ` Ben de Groot
2013-06-12 15:51               ` hasufell
2013-06-12 16:16                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-12 16:23                   ` hasufell
2013-06-12 16:24                   ` Tomáš Chvátal
2013-06-12 16:37                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-12 16:51                       ` Michał Górny
2013-06-12 18:35                         ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-12 19:50                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-13  2:52                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-12 23:26                           ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-06-12 16:44               ` Michał Górny
2013-06-13  3:12               ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-14 13:09                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-06-14 14:27                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-14 14:51                     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-14 15:24                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-14 15:55                         ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-14 16:51                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-14 20:29                             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-14 21:31                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-14 22:14                                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-14 23:09                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-15  9:31                                     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-15 10:31                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-15 10:52                                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-15 12:31                                           ` Pandu Poluan
2013-06-15 13:10                                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-15 14:06                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-06-17 16:38                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-17 16:15                                         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-17 17:34                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-17 18:18                                             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-18  9:32                                               ` Dale
2013-06-18 14:04                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-15  0:55                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-15  3:48                             ` Ben de Groot
2013-06-14 14:29                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-14 15:34                   ` Michał Górny
2013-06-14 20:51                     ` hasufell
2013-06-17 18:47                       ` vivo75
2013-06-14 20:51                   ` hasufell
2013-06-20  0:26             ` [gentoo-project] " Steven J. Long
2013-06-12 20:01           ` [gentoo-project] " Tom Wijsman
2013-06-12 20:27           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-19 22:24           ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-06-12 11:43 ` hasufell
2013-06-12 11:54   ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-12 11:57     ` hasufell
2013-06-12 12:05       ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-12 12:05     ` Michał Górny
2013-06-12 12:07       ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-16  9:33 ` [gentoo-project] Proposal for add-on file utility (run after emerge update) Walter Dnes
2013-06-16 10:21   ` [gentoo-project] Introducing an optional files directory in the Portage tree with an embedded install condition and individual maintainers. (was Re: [gentoo-project] Proposal for add-on file utility (run after emerge update)) Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 10:53     ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-16 11:51       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 12:13         ` hasufell
2013-06-16 14:08           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 14:14           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 14:51             ` hasufell
2013-06-16 14:58               ` Michał Górny
2013-06-16 18:12               ` Pandu Poluan
2013-06-16 18:18                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-06-16 18:20                 ` hasufell
2013-06-16 18:32                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 18:41                     ` Michał Górny
2013-06-16 19:22                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 19:31                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-16 22:02                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-17 13:38                             ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-17 16:09                               ` William Hubbs
2013-06-16 19:40                         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-16 18:33                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 15:01     ` Michał Górny
2013-06-16 16:03     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-16 17:08       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 16:50   ` [gentoo-project] Proposal for add-on file utility (run after emerge update) Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-06-16 19:39   ` Ciaran McCreesh

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