From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AB31381F3 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71058E087D; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCF05E0784 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [81.219.205.176]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55FBA33E246; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:44:55 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: yngwin@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units Message-ID: <20130612184455.2cab9fbb@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <1371039602.27198.24.camel@localhost> <20130612162535.570c2bc0@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.1 (GTK+ 2.24.18; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/N/MXOjSRRpfGvQT4dpGzbgA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: b9fb577b-fb96-4001-b3c2-225f0268d641 X-Archives-Hash: 6c739fbfdc1a12230ca2f1ea3583e9ab --Sig_/N/MXOjSRRpfGvQT4dpGzbgA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2013-06-12, o godz. 23:41:39 Ben de Groot napisa=C5=82(a): > On 12 June 2013 22:52, Rich Freeman wrote: > > What all of this really amounts to is a bunch of people who don't want > > to work together trying to legally apply the rules to accomplish their > > personal goals, whatever they may be. >=20 > "Do what I say, or I will take over your package and do it anyway" is > a really funny way of working together... >=20 > In most places I know this would be called bullying. I don't want to > spend my free time on a project that condones that kind of behaviour. Please don't turn this into word-picking and proper grammar kind of debate. If we're really to discuss how people word their requests and so on... it's just not worth it. The point is that we have global kind of policies. We have common policies which map to specific policies, and all that we can do is to expect developers to follow those policies until they have good *technical* reasons not to. Please remember that Gentoo is a project, a whole. If there is a general consensus on something, a single developer should not stand in the way and shout 'liberum veto'. Bullying is not the best way of enforcing that consensus. But the person refusing to follow the policy is not free of guilt either. In a perfect world, it would be just a nice conversation with the developer who would accept the global decision. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/N/MXOjSRRpfGvQT4dpGzbgA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJRuKWIXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEKLooP/jFVrS2PHaB2qT2BMed7XboC h6xHIOY+W34ZgGz8iHo4acGdknCN4G9sGubrcsU6Dsf6HgU3wLFUhs1wjpSQUKCv 5UgHZWYTKUiQKqzizFDbhC87RNPCwVqS8eeAyCT98pEqVNunCfmDr4m+mMCJRD38 4v5ii74T8d9jyjjHH3k1dfPkCZp55q2bgrhO3sUCUjV8IoXAXzAqWfTz6QAZTq0f Ie8kn/6rA2p9tHU4gHiGHYmw//69d/ExW2HTDDMditTu0m8+Tr3KD0hODNuNOR+c ll/aB7gh+HEd0J3ZSjeF50d81Ob6vj3+12RxiX7NS60BZMA1CocG8DQ+bFc5DXYq 5J6xuvUD46e6bZySJ5CnDCb6dRLw+qGmf9cjptDUp1391ctU+GZmA2lsQnvse763 rwOJCZYdOBOPSNszZSQoTKFtWKCctIX+tVDAv+eJr8PeY2v1sifkBHzQoieGz5V7 D06bNBrpCWIoq45wQpRRq31ymb1FWvLJOtllJ4ovaM09AUQKnpn/k6wxCk5oXjv6 DoBAktR0tLR6tBNxcL2rGw7n9FQKtGV7h1/2f6zTnk9qvzcn+rD1APIxymtUBTdP lIJ/U3o+a7/TERoFAmLqbMH9FPhW5ga/SLrFmJjl829vFklYa3nbzCN+6bHtJMAb jf4oWzPBjCn54XVxL6zd =nP6b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/N/MXOjSRRpfGvQT4dpGzbgA--