From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DF21381F3 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26F94E0CAC; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo-p05-ob.rzone.de (mo-p05-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A52E0CA6 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:08:08 +0000 (UTC) X-RZG-AUTH: :IW0NeWCpcPchHrcnS4ebzBgQnKHTmUiSF2JlOcyz+57jTVMtVX7771jWiJc= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from pinacolada.localnet (95-130-165-192.hsi.glasfaser-ostbayern.de [95.130.165.192]) by smtp.strato.de (josoe mo25) (RZmta 31.24 AUTH) with ESMTPA id 205d52p37BW8tR for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:08:07 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:08:57 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.6.11-gentoo; KDE/4.10.2; x86_64; ; ) References: <20817.55135.354752.397336@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <201304070037.28554.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20130406200511.01d4c0e9@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <20130406200511.01d4c0e9@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8823422.3rHPZDq79U"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201304071409.03862.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: b24a24f5-9cd9-4a74-8e45-27d53c4f836b X-Archives-Hash: ad64a904baf551175b2f2b0569452b6c --nextPart8823422.3rHPZDq79U Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sonntag, 7. April 2013, 04:05:11 schrieb Ryan Hill: > Toolchain packages, for better or worse, are built by eclass. We are not > forward-porting toolchain.eclass every time someone decides there are too > many EAPIs in the tree. Every change to that eclass breaks something (the > trick is to break things people don't care about any more and hope no one > notices).=20 I'm sorry, but this comes over roughly like follows: "We're the only ones doing really complex stuff in the tree, you know,=20 eclasses! Can't really be bothered to clean up the code, especially not for= =20 such pointless things as improvements in package manager handling. Our code= is=20 highly complex and really fragile, so every small change breaks things. We'= re=20 trying to hide this as well as we can, thank you for not noticing." =2D-=20 Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer=20 dilfridge@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ --nextPart8823422.3rHPZDq79U Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAABCgBmBQJRYWHfXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwNzlCRDk4QzA4RENBRkYzQUEwRjQzMDlF QkU2QTMzNkJFMTkwMzlDAAoJEOvmoza+GQOcu2kP/Ay4KCnnB0Esinkn5LaJF3qD ENL3ovl5KOQN25T8y8ztRt93KOgnW5IbNIC3XBPCiIOySqbL5d2MgYFirj/fcJgU Ktx4dLJcFGfwUmeR8RTJ872MVoGmJfuUS7i8Yc1NakdnqjHBTaRHWED01xOEbp7u xwVs/bmMSlmmy4NZTivtpcbnVjmi5l5r+7ORFzHl3evt6sfAb383gPBFO1ix5SGU 77LJoEBgV0S5pfQjMnb7ZtPyMRTnMxqLnxC4Goispx1VY4iC2iTZ/BiT1vG9Nmwb 9fhYJz+KlsHfDJqifGrn4vggBAnXZE8SBLD+2+36sEpoKk/oIOKhBuIxMlaPgBSe Zr0j4xb/8AszmMEekGkyryY5wAEh240hgkcNp2xPd6GqdAPev+HcMgkjccWbdmfS DCj6JxIX9TnjQLrJcSOUdusFnd+NvC5mbXwZeJJHIhosQwFm9oqsIlIZyPRe/Vlm iK8PsjkJe5Ox8V37LeycWW3hWCwPnopjr4Pwk9mspDwePbycB4y7f4OeAhbscW7X rt+XE5NG2QCAZyc9c1M/UWbX5kSZKSX2/T8rvCL7/VCb5348XAEHog/3Hkj1CNZ7 jk4MrSBspKXxkbF0lLdhpBeAqqG27RjByYMFRIfMajoleX688oUDDhTPpPCeT3mH NiK32s3xcKiDJ9QKBkqq =GEzg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8823422.3rHPZDq79U--