From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-project+bounces-2381-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376601381F3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27848E0B7F; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 529CEE0B7E for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9223F33DBE6 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:55:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.352 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.352 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.023, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.373, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ztYQmD2k37TK for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7485333DDBF for <gentoo-project@gentoo.org>; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <glgp-gentoo-project@m.gmane.org>) id 1UOeoo-0004iQ-EA for gentoo-project@gentoo.org; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:54:54 +0200 Received: from 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca ([71.17.69.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-project@gentoo.org>; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:54:54 +0200 Received: from dirtyepic by 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-project@gentoo.org>; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:54:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org> Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:05:11 -0600 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: <20130406200511.01d4c0e9@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> References: <20817.55135.354752.397336@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20831.474.441795.677277@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20130406154314.0d7dc7ef@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <201304070037.28554.dilfridge@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/KQkRBRoVWZ80tp.XHkRaMDQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 5d53bf9d-3e05-4927-8934-0accc8090606 X-Archives-Hash: 623a5e44c62c83f066e38828de791475 --Sig_/KQkRBRoVWZ80tp.XHkRaMDQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 00:37:22 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote: > Am Samstag, 6. April 2013, 23:43:14 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 18:54:50 +0200 > >=20 > > Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > I'd be a little more proactive and deprecate EAPIs 0 and 1 immediately > > > (which would correspond to the 4 years mentioned above). When doing a > > > version or revision bump, the ebuild should be updated to use a newer > > > EAPI. There can be exceptions, e.g. for security bumps. > >=20 > > Toolchain packages are EAPI 0 and we aren't changing. >=20 > That sounds a bit like "over my ..." > Care to elaborate why? Every time this comes up we explain why. Please refer to those threads for= the complete story. In short: Toolchain packages, for better or worse, are built by eclass. We are not forward-porting toolchain.eclass every time someone decides there are too m= any EAPIs in the tree. Every change to that eclass breaks something (the trick= is to break things people don't care about any more and hope no one notices). = I don't know the ins and outs of glibc's eblits but I doubt they would be sim= ple to port either. I also don't know much about toolchain-binutils.eclass, but it seems like it would be doable. Other packages are already on later EAPIs. There is no reason to remove EAPI 0. Leave it as the baseline that other EAPI's are defined by. Most devs will not be dealing with these packages, = so it really doesn't affect them. Since there is no reason to remove it, we w= ill continue to use it. --=20 gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgets by design, by negl= ect @ gentoo.org for a fact or just for eff= ect --Sig_/KQkRBRoVWZ80tp.XHkRaMDQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJRYNRfAAoJEO04vUmVeoRjJ2YIAJPfTtlwuwyA5QlrIGZc7dMV X8fy6RfgArmxsFcPat4wHNa7HVx/0iLKVTmX4Vt1OLaGsceekI+JVqiWsRf/vpId RtaC/3DdRS6fTPlLMdCod589PYxFl10yDhIfldf5JNPoXJVGylSSf4naUJtorR1M l8YrX9bGXHJEo3iNKWwrC20rKNLvUDQoKiNGX2wwIYY24j5Few4rTHjF2M/DV26G 36NNUPLUwkavFvw33DSedSfY//bp7sS30bdxfTP5WQyJJE4KwJAxk+UUY9KkhS2y +tj+GDlJAWzKOS6PjqfNPZMS/KBdAUMpOjKN+0JUuebw6BsWgDXlRq3l4HF5ZW8= =n+1N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/KQkRBRoVWZ80tp.XHkRaMDQ--