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From: Ralph Sennhauser <sera@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:07:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130403110754.41276e21@sera-20.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2jQ8iwyEr8K_2JOiE-yV70eoLe2LAb3kEo+hDPD4+h9s8pgg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:31:51 +0100
Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:

> > Should we have a stricter rule? Would such a rule help significantly
> > reducing the number of EAPI 0 ebuilds?  
> I believe so. Maybe make repoman scream if you commit an ebuild with
> 1<=EAPI<=4 ?

I feel strongly against starting with anything but EAPI 0. And I
don't consider EAPI 4 old enough to start pestering maintainers about
it.

What we need is a live cycle of EAPIs to keep things manageable in the
long run. We aren't under pressure to get rid of as many as possible
ASAP. A simple scheme could be

- EAPI becomes second latest
- 5 years later repoman warns.
- 2 years later repoman errors out.

With that scheme EAPI=0  would be due soon. As the "bump to latest
eapi" policy isn't that old and seems to have only sunk in a about a
year ago, and the myth of still requiring system packages to be EAPI=0
kept a lot of the tree at EAPI=0 for a long time. Fact is EAPI 0 ebuilds
are still many, though the number started to crumble significantly
lately. So waiting another year before starting actively warn might be
appropriate.

The important thing is for the council to declare intent and timeframe,
so maintainers can plan far ahead. The other thing that became apparent
from last discussion is that a slightly low EAPI shouldn't be a card
blanch for zealots to touch packages they don't maintain or to file
bugs about it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-03  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-26 17:14 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 Ulrich Mueller
2013-03-30 10:22 ` Michał Górny
2013-03-30 11:51   ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-04-02 14:25 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller
2013-04-02 15:25   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-02 15:31   ` Markos Chandras
2013-04-02 16:42     ` Michał Górny
2013-04-03  9:07     ` Ralph Sennhauser [this message]
2013-04-03  9:31       ` vivo75
2013-04-03 15:22         ` Zac Medico
2013-04-03 18:11           ` vivo75
2013-04-05 16:54       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-04-06 21:43         ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-06 21:50           ` Pacho Ramos
2013-04-06 22:37           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-04-07  2:05             ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-07  7:27               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-04-07  9:34                 ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-07 14:00                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-07 14:46                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-07 14:47                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-04-07 15:07                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-07 10:13                 ` Markos Chandras
2013-04-07 10:41                   ` Ben de Groot
2013-04-07 10:51                     ` Markos Chandras
2013-04-07 14:23                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-07 11:05                   ` Michał Górny
2013-04-07 15:06                   ` Michael Palimaka
2013-04-07 11:13               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-04-07 12:08               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-04-07 12:24                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-07 13:37                   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-04-07 13:43                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-07 14:13                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-07 14:36                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-04-09  5:20                 ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-09  5:57                   ` Michał Górny
2013-04-09  8:13                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-09 19:24                     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-09 20:24                       ` Michał Górny
2013-04-09 20:57                         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-10  0:07                         ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-10  3:41                           ` Michał Górny
2013-04-10 13:02                             ` vivo75
2013-04-10 13:25                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-09 18:12                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-04-10 12:20                     ` hasufell
2013-04-10 13:00                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-10 13:16                         ` hasufell
2013-04-10 13:40                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-10 14:20                             ` hasufell
2013-04-10 15:02                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-10 16:43                                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-10 17:12                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-10 19:30                     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-10 20:22                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-11  3:53                         ` Ryan Hill
2013-04-07 13:58               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-02 22:37   ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-04-03  5:02     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-03  9:56   ` Thomas Sachau
2013-04-03  9:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-04-03 19:06       ` Thomas Sachau
2013-04-04  5:38         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-04-03 10:14   ` Michał Górny
2013-04-02 22:13 ` [gentoo-project] Council meeting: Tuesday 9 April 2013, *** 19:00 UTC *** Ulrich Mueller

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