From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511141381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F30221C096 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C903021C011 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id ta14so802065obb.40 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:15:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=8Cf2vRi7a2dt2OVaSGFapQFdjjDTpQwbrNIPmol6jFM=; b=yJ7vDVTpliE+Kh+5vWAWFwga3eYFWlgly1YMTp3aY+gaBi5g2eRpdvz2qPOTGtT1a/ 0KagrY1/cDjt8AsQ7FdY/CfPLDhbJEg6K9Ye0uGbDt0cAxgIkgmW9DSdFMA4JB8nqX6I O7Jk8xlwG4m656crFTsyt+ubFrJDrU4ALfkf9mgfQn0VqPnHWBvNud1E/xP+T17nTX6J AyYMfGYfyoTYBuy1R/rGuYeLBRMsspb48Q3hTytd7Hc1QuPMzB0lvH17OzjmN06ba9CA Il1/JsjTMbP7Y0C/faznF574qXiaz4JTKjCIpdhMot3jd3+2iNpFCSRENdNqmhChy/nJ 2W7g== Received: by 10.60.30.104 with SMTP id r8mr21712162oeh.60.1352920532927; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-95-60.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.95.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w2sm10704923oeb.1.2012.11.14.11.15.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:15:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:15:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:15:29 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization Message-ID: <20121114191529.GA18138@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 9f3b6cef-bf53-4cbb-9ffa-9d57b8aa777a X-Archives-Hash: 81ea7c0c2acec9b52eb72435c1bf84bb --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 05:07:26PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao wrote: >=20 > > Dear Everyone, > > > > It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev > > has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes > > Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance > > seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes > > that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 > > > > After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' > > concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to > > eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other > > things. We will announce the project later this week. > > >=20 >=20 > I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work > together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's > udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums. I already tried to open a dialog with these guys; they seem pretty hostile; another "our way or the highway" approach seemed to be going on there [1]. William [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/437570 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCj7dEACgkQblQW9DDEZTjhrQCgkrreN60Iar/w5SwpxxxaugUV uSEAn1Ia/QlLlGGK1Xhi6ZvLsqba0Eh2 =cxE5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q--