Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting: Tuesday 11 November 2012, 19:00 UTC

[William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>]

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On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 12:46:20PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Alexis Ballier <aballier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:28:16 +0100
> > Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>    - approve/disapprove removal of gen_usr_ldscript
> >
> > I'm not sure what you meant here, but if that meant 'make it a no-op on
> > systems where it makes sense', then fine by me. Otherwise, please keep
> > in mind that removing it will also affect g/fbsd where this is still
> > needed in order to have a sane / and /usr separation.
> 
> I haven't really seen any discussion of this so I'll chime in.
> 
> Up until now most of the discussion has been about ALLOWING
> maintainers to stick boot-required files in /usr at some point in the
> future.  Changing things like gen_usr_ldscript would actually
> represent an active push towards moving these files into /usr.  I
> think that is a big distinction, and it would cause our Linux vs BSD
> approaches to diverge unless we forced BSD to follow along.
 
 There's no reason to make *bsd do anything. gen_usr_ldscript is already
 smart enough to not do anything in some environments; I'm just
 proposing adding linux to that list.

> I think there is a difference between allowing a few Linux-only
> packages to move to /usr to follow upstream and moving towards a full
> scale /usr migration on Linux for all packages, even if their
> upstreams don't use /usr.
 
 I'm not talking about migrating *anything* at this point, just how to
 implement separate /usr support on linux, without affecting what the
 alternate platforms are doing.

> I think the more conservative approach is to take things one step at a
> time - after some period of time allow things to move to /usr, but
> leave it up to maintainer discretion, since they're the ones getting
> bugs from linux, BSD, etc.

Please let's keep this thread on topic. Migrating packages is another
separate discussion.

Thanks,

William


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