From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SQVHD-00056M-92 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2012 03:03:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB30E0655 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 03:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3CCE0655 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 02:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbuo19 with SMTP id uo19so5872900obb.40 for ; Fri, 04 May 2012 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dZHJ3zKtubKzkX0AVZKyK/GsUFoc6/+QYWdWsNeJ7gg=; b=HlrXtyEVEb3RxQKBr62KKsWgPdoAyOuU+xXeQt05DT1+b3jiEtRfFMvz0B1jjHgf7R fU/FEeUlUt+LtaVvg/RWtY3+2mMfIwfnkMwCEsda+CQVhqFk7OuFAT3uDXTMjWkpTO1Q I51vvnrNvc00plaKwi1+Q5MgJ1vYMewNk+jUUBMLMakA6QFF+Y1IK3znandBMNoOJXWb S5JY42RqN8lrWKnri90J3N2pKlOEqur1ZzWogJNY7noQ2yFKjgAQcBak64IenZLR84uG Q66yLEyOcudr7ER2Aickp2rmbG5eB6OcqIUydthmsEBvQCd7D84rijQQOgGRd7HSImt4 2Dtg== Received: by 10.182.111.39 with SMTP id if7mr11372835obb.55.1336185696728; Fri, 04 May 2012 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-77-158.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.77.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5sm10974650obj.21.2012.05.04.19.41.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 May 2012 19:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 04 May 2012 21:41:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:41:34 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: Mike Frysinger Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, council@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting: Tuesday 8th May 2012, 19:00 UTC Message-ID: <20120505024134.GA4666@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Frysinger , gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, council@gentoo.org References: <4FA095CE.3070701@gentoo.org> <20120504230637.GA2183@linux1> <201205042046.22210.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201205042046.22210.vapier@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: e9963044-5b36-40e3-a2c7-4b50fbae0d1c X-Archives-Hash: 7447a3e9e45d8bb0ad745bab27462087 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:46:21PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2012 19:06:37 William Hubbs wrote: > > If you use an initramfs to pre-mount /usr, all of these issues are moot > > and things just work (tm). Mike's sep-usr use flag option on busybox > > may do this, but see below. > >=20 > > - Separate /usr without initramfs blocks the /usr merge. > > In my original request to have your vote reviewed, I pointed out the > > document which asserts that the /usr merge is a good thing and pointed > > out the thread in which we discussed it on -dev. The arguments > > supporting it are strong, and I haven't seen any technical argument > > against it that would not be addressed by using an initramfs with > > separate /usr. If you are using an initramfs, you will never know > > when the /usr merge happens, but if you are using something like > > Mike's option your system is not compatible with the merge. >=20 > why exactly do you say that ? i already explained that busybox[sep-usr] = works=20 > perfectly fine in a /usr-merged world. the /ginit static ELF literally n= eeds=20 > nothing else in the system to work. you could boot a rootfs where the on= ly=20 > thing in / was ginit and it wouldn't be a problem. Ah ok, maybe this is the answer then. That's why I said above that I wasn't sure. If you are installing the ginit binary directly in /, we may be good to go. :-) William --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+kk14ACgkQblQW9DDEZTjAygCdHZiVb0rX26Hne2utELduDpim r5UAn0HUkpF5NNbsAgsZU00S/eNZzos9 =XGeR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy--