From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SQVGn-0004lq-4N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2012 03:02:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8B2BE064E for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 03:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A73E00B5 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 00:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D189D1B4008; Sat, 5 May 2012 00:45:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting: Tuesday 8th May 2012, 19:00 UTC Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 20:46:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.3.4; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) Cc: William Hubbs , council@gentoo.org References: <4FA095CE.3070701@gentoo.org> <20120504230637.GA2183@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20120504230637.GA2183@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1676804.HueNisMke2"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201205042046.22210.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: d1192e4a-d579-4e22-be80-9de56a66a7dc X-Archives-Hash: 7b8f3293e3d4a273fa578632ce8f5f9e --nextPart1676804.HueNisMke2 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 04 May 2012 19:06:37 William Hubbs wrote: > If you use an initramfs to pre-mount /usr, all of these issues are moot > and things just work (tm). Mike's sep-usr use flag option on busybox > may do this, but see below. >=20 > - Separate /usr without initramfs blocks the /usr merge. > In my original request to have your vote reviewed, I pointed out the > document which asserts that the /usr merge is a good thing and pointed > out the thread in which we discussed it on -dev. The arguments > supporting it are strong, and I haven't seen any technical argument > against it that would not be addressed by using an initramfs with > separate /usr. If you are using an initramfs, you will never know > when the /usr merge happens, but if you are using something like > Mike's option your system is not compatible with the merge. why exactly do you say that ? i already explained that busybox[sep-usr] wo= rks=20 perfectly fine in a /usr-merged world. the /ginit static ELF literally nee= ds=20 nothing else in the system to work. you could boot a rootfs where the only= =20 thing in / was ginit and it wouldn't be a problem. =2Dmike --nextPart1676804.HueNisMke2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJPpHheAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBbuwQALCy4Zmez3UcGUz6LQfF7hlJ McyF0SEdDDXVIty8J5nkc0+jLRa8k0yw5iyw68oi+5dZk1QHAfHDWDjj5c/77eKY 7KyLtbiPTX/jobRe+4KymSAWQ7Ez9iHq0Rev/G9UIFJDXz98x6Ln8Z94d8/Lhvxl x4PkVqMGO5X5VyKXMPD+WI61s3Gr5NFhv7eIjJCd9cnaMh4nfgPExH0v7CS5MH3w E2191owE8NvjVaRmJEmzFbnDesKPWXCYhdLDKj6rUfsoSgOXCKo9WJcCMA32gqsF RLoHwCYxi3B8U3TwFuTDDhWL2l4XnliplaofUwWKOqfA2b30TLX96pBrAeK7cY9I WuCqMMdqcN63HPcJx5sZ8xvj1A1mK5qbUOi6qkJz2mu5lLXi4GuAG4CaTKVwPYc/ +sYYslk3dNNx7B0iFkU5MYko8RSSmhxxtAeSIwFZUdqml5cVXHdxbc4XWqdGVtVg pIGHQrr1mbJTQODa9AUtVa7qIXhaRf1GXg+RgMSYhOXqLA8YLidN6n5kElcRIvpO UtrttCT7S/WEz76Dcfv/9gMiYnakXYdg43jXCvrwu/BwhWjhZdeMKpGJB8enfLUY 4GMiKK+0nmYFWbFmAxCvxwqfPBWnNUjEyOm9BrE0ryU+WQfzCFf7JESw6bNx+gnJ gRh0Xn1i6PI8UnOn+Rkr =2rjR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1676804.HueNisMke2--