From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhIv-0005O0-EI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:46:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CB9721C0E4; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E938B21C0D9 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904FF1B4014 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:46:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:46:09 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.1.0; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20111203103024.GN37825@gentoo.org> <201112050148.01078.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EDD4206.30707@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EDD4206.30707@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart18135904.Z6ia1sxuGc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112051746.11995.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 499fb009-3703-4834-958f-25b881fc85bc X-Archives-Hash: d0f176d95b73da54339d8681d2f78261 --nextPart18135904.Z6ia1sxuGc Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 05 December 2011 17:13:26 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB= =85n wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > >> Not all failures are errors, only errors are shown > >=20 > > all failures as characterized by "ebuild called `die`" get shown -- > > portage dumps the entire log, thus your need to copy & paste the log > > file to `cat` is garbage. > >=20 > > all "failures" that don't result in an aborted build (e.g. EAPI=3D0 dod= oc > > on missing file) will get "missed". many of those are logged as QA > > warnings, but it seems default --quiet-build=3Dy will not include these= in > > the log summary. this might be useful to fix -- i'll poke Zac about it > > if he doesn't see this e- mail. > >=20 > > otherwise, your statement is really way too zen to get anything > > meaningful out of it. post actual examples of what you're talking > > about. >=20 > Attached you will find a build.log of trying to build cdrtools on > sparc-solaris prefix. Admittedly a bit exotic, but far from unique > incident. >=20 > A moderately knowledgeable user would notice that something is wrong > from watching the build output for a couple of seconds. Portage however > proceeds happily because make returns exit status 0. portage would always proceed. the only thing that would stop it is the use= r=20 hitting CTRL+C. and that requires the user actually be watching the build= =20 output. perhaps they would be for a single package, but for general upgrad= es,=20 i doubt you can rely on that. what would be more likely is they try to run= =20 `cdrecord`, find it missing, find the build failed, and then file a bug. t= hat=20 workflow really isn't affected by the defaults here. =2Dmike --nextPart18135904.Z6ia1sxuGc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJO3UmzAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBPs8P/3Z4kByi2zol39LvlT922FTd DRtCRxvzot+sJMAQ+peSkplAHDaU27PxNAPgf69rjwiLUKp7o4GODkC8uQlENXRr 2E+221z7OmvFrqJOPPwYB77XYz+h56MY+4RDTpCrcivJvM/2AlnkiY5YmTJh6vfs v2FWAQ5PCBJXA2OSGw8vEEmfh57SsgXP4US5LZP1gn/xxc2YtV5xnkfv5So9Uqr7 XSmnnnnT6LnIJYmx1GlLVUEbKnOLE1uuQGzgJYQ6OAimO4TuYZwFbnAIh1lnipFC Q5gmZ8ypWX/NjnVX6rPtMcb6vl5ELD5PTFHvqvM+c+RRnW5DVeYFlJ+5iY6jEi6o Srx/ZpbdTQuKqFx/zpJjpjJtpQFj5EVzm5jgvagLCuGf0DkDRepV9/K8fKR1oaMw nGcMWACQFPiU2ZXZhq8vjkbGaJ+ut4Lx6ErDT7AGpFbc2GK5DeSYLeZUOOaNXEsv UTE1K4CDV+ApVekTWKJWrYj3emyd0srnhGSLjjNeup7br/R8x1YWe7oroWH/stNa ZKg4WeFjLVE39uD/BARpAEO9fvFExMtyBRCF/SnmKCCPdrAt6aI1FtaW0TFBWf/e 7kBvyPWz+e2qlmySgAmSWOdVt3Ryic+717PJ6+GbAAc7f8nVkc38PtJIcuFek9tm 0CEMrdXLYMdEMCUIsEuq =zhak -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart18135904.Z6ia1sxuGc--