From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QtQXJ-0007xD-6g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:46:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88F6421C20E; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57CC721C207 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (24-179-244-217.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com [24.179.244.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dberkholz) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E1671B4032 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:46:32 -0500 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council? Message-ID: <20110816204632.GJ3818@comet.mayo.edu> References: <4E47ADA0.2060906@gentoo.org> <20110816182817.GA30214@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yr6OvWOSyJed8q4v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 59d6bab2fb98bcaf5a8997f37cad04e8 --yr6OvWOSyJed8q4v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15:17 Tue 16 Aug , Rich Freeman wrote: > What kind of conflict are we actually talking about? It isn't a=20 > conflict of interest to hold an opinion. It is only a conflict if the=20 > personal interests of a council member aren't aligned with the=20 > interests of the developer community as a whole. >=20 > If a Council member has been investigating a situation closely, then=20 > my feeling is that they're in a BETTER position to evaluate the=20 > situation and not a worse one. The DevRel process is not an=20 > adversarial one. >=20 > If we as a community can't trust somebody's ability to be=20 > professional, then the last thing we should do is elect them to the=20 > Council. Keep in mind that Developers only can lose their status if=20 > they really tick a lot of people off. Council members lose their=20 > status by default every 12 months. >=20 > Is there a problem here that actually needs to be solved? Can=20 > somebody point to a recent situation where a conflict of interest=20 > between a Council member and a developer led to a decision that a=20 > majority of the community would consider inappropriate? I don't normally post +1, but to get my opinion out as a council member=20 I will do so. I agree with Rich 1000% on everything he's said in this=20 thread. --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com --yr6OvWOSyJed8q4v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk5K1ygACgkQXVaO67S1rttDAACgkrgdYeKEWaukNSSxtMncxfJ+ sOoAnRVai5dmzVNMEbiVcaSrnhZFerqC =Pyr4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yr6OvWOSyJed8q4v--