From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qqqpm-0004h5-KB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:15:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFB5B21C122; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C192121C0D5 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mayo-nat4.mayo.edu [129.176.197.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dberkholz) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 40A6A1B400E for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:15:01 -0500 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request) Message-ID: <20110809181501.GH25611@comet.mayo.edu> References: <20110602091338.GL14065@gentoo.org> <20110801201623.GX20656@gentoo.org> <20110803174310.GB2924@comet.ucsd.edu> <20110803175650.GN20656@gentoo.org> <20110803180907.GC2924@comet.ucsd.edu> <20110803183304.GP20656@gentoo.org> <20110809173257.GE25611@comet.mayo.edu> <20110809174211.GD24618@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gTtJ75FAzB1T2CN6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110809174211.GD24618@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 408abb6f451a6b27f6c2dad81fd5035b --gTtJ75FAzB1T2CN6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19:42 Tue 09 Aug , Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 09-08-2011 12:32:57 -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > > Yeah, that's already on my draft agenda [1]. =3D) But we should sti= ll have=20 > > > > a small set of options to choose from if we do vote to automate, so= we=20 > > > > don't sit around for another month or discuss it aimlessly for hour= s.=20 > > > > Being prepared is what I'm hoping we can do here. > > >=20 > > > Ok, then I suggest simply adding ", don't bother about changes between > > > CVS log and ChangeLog" to both of your options. > >=20 > > I guess I don't understand something here. If we aren't retroactively= =20 > > changing existing ChangeLogs, and we're autogenerating things in the=20 > > future, where would these changes come from? >=20 > so you want to retain all existing ChangeLogs? Seems like a better idea to me, although it's not originally mine. Old=20 commit messages weren't written with the knowledge or intent that anyone=20 would be reading them, except maybe a dev or two, so we might lose a lot=20 of information. If/when we switch to git, we might want to reconsider that, since all=20 the handwritten messages will be old, largely irrelevant history by=20 then. --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com --gTtJ75FAzB1T2CN6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk5BeSUACgkQXVaO67S1rttd4ACdFmuOX4HWz5l1okc9KU2scKnE wtUAninCjkjvENC19/WlMx423PNoxG/d =yMnK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gTtJ75FAzB1T2CN6--