From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QpgIm-0003Y1-Os for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:48:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42FA421C237; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amun.cheops.ods.org (amun.cheops.ods.org [83.161.135.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268A421C17E for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tefnut.cheops.ods.org ([2001:980:57a5:1:211:24ff:fe37:e46e] helo=gentoo.org) by amun.cheops.ods.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QpgIU-0004cN-9J for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 14:48:11 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 14:47:56 +0200 From: Fabian Groffen To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years Message-ID: <20110806124756.GB20656@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <4E3BED69.6060003@gentoo.org> <20110805134412.GC17729@gentoo.org> <4E3BF61F.7050300@gentoo.org> <4E3C1B32.2020105@gentoo.org> <4E3C39C5.3010700@gentoo.org> <4E3CB0E3.4030108@gentoo.org> <4E3D10B0.80107@gentoo.org> <20110806114921.GA20656@gentoo.org> <4E3D2C95.2030107@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E3D2C95.2030107@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (Darwin 8.11.0, VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3) Organization: Gentoo Foundation, Inc. X-Content-Scanned: by amun.cheops.ods.org (Exim Exiscan) using SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e6a92a3a180e2d5f91a9deb8d9b7778f On 06-08-2011 12:59:17 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: > >>> This should be the arch more developers use daily and is likely > >>> the one with more members (herd count). Also, one should remember > >>> the time it takes to compile, test or debug an issue in a recent > >>> amd64 system or an old / slow box with an "exotic arch" varies > >>> substantially. Not to mention that the amount of testing done on > >>> "exotic arches" varies substantially between projects. > >> I am aware of the problems and this is way I want a solution. > > > > And what solution do you have in mind (in your Council role)? > > Drop stable keywords for certain arches and/or remove their keywords > from X packages. The idea is to keep only a single and smaller portage > tree which would be much more easier to manage. Pretty much the same > situation as MIPS. It worked pretty well on MIPS, so it will work on > these arches too As Jorge already pointed out, what you consider to be a solution here, others don't. And that is also the reason why the Council is, what you perceive as, slow. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level