From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qofsn-0002lP-55 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:09:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A03121C1B1; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8D121C16F for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (wl-dy-169-228-178-213.ucsd.edu [169.228.178.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dberkholz) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28BDA2AC01E for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:09:07 -0700 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog generation - pros and cons (council discussion request) Message-ID: <20110803180907.GC2924@comet.ucsd.edu> References: <20110602091338.GL14065@gentoo.org> <20110801201623.GX20656@gentoo.org> <20110803174310.GB2924@comet.ucsd.edu> <20110803175650.GN20656@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110803175650.GN20656@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: fdb7d2f3398c172e2474b45eedcb6e5d --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19:56 Wed 03 Aug , Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 03-08-2011 10:43:10 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 22:16 Mon 01 Aug , Fabian Groffen wrote: > > > Auto generation of ChangeLogs, implies changes, and also influences= =20 > > > how current ChangeLog information is to be handled. What if=20 > > > auto-generation is done, what does it take? > >=20 > > For the purposes of a council meeting, I think we should construct a=20 > > small set of specific proposals to choose from so we don't get mired in= =20 > > endless discussions during the meeting. > >=20 > > I'd like to offer a couple of them for us to choose between. > >=20 > > 1. Include all commits, don't retroactively change existing ChangeLog= =20 > > messages > >=20 > > 2. Allow commit filtering, don't retroactively change existing ChangeLo= g=20 > > messages > >=20 > > - Filters to allow: keywording, stabilization, removal of ebuilds.=20 > > Whoever implements the code can decide on the format of said filters. > >=20 > >=20 > > Do any council members feel strongly that we should include additional= =20 > > options, or is it good enough to just make a choice on these two? >=20 > I listed the questions I think are relevant at the bottom of my mail. I > feel you forgot the most important one: should ChangeLogs be > auto-generated at all?. Only if yes, Yeah, that's already on my draft agenda [1]. =3D) But we should still have= =20 a small set of options to choose from if we do vote to automate, so we=20 don't sit around for another month or discuss it aimlessly for hours.=20 Being prepared is what I'm hoping we can do here. > I have the impression that any detail on how and what can only be=20 > dealt with after it is clear what the majority of the council members=20 > lean towards. E.g. useless to list and discuss a big variety of=20 > filters if there is no support for allowing them at all. 1. http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/20110809_agenda.txt --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk45jsMACgkQXVaO67S1rtsmgACgqIu39Oy09amkjj74X6/nALMu fjUAoNiDXURs8Bxr52q4JWrkWrng9/us =teCg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E/DnYTRukya0zdZ1--