From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QoH7p-0000Jd-Mj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:43:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEFDB21C214; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8C721C1E5 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywa8 with SMTP id 8so1881550ywa.40 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=7OYoURb9M4V52IQjHStSTn8VQPqcl0/XuBldq+/uqjg=; b=SddOrERhV1CictQBuaUfn88xRcp/c92oQuj8mxtQG+aJ78uhQ9DGVYxNS6U7QYXsWt 8i7m26OmmriNCeE3rnxyKWipOcr28zngO//K8D7DrPyesKxXArG4z4QxEp35Ybl0093K uHIC+TZwM85ZL2tbO+6RyubAsX0jkMwcOezdA= Received: by 10.236.195.3 with SMTP id o3mr4453524yhn.355.1312299779628; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-76-173.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.76.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2sm46276yhl.29.2011.08.02.08.42.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:42:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:42:56 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years Message-ID: <20110802154256.GA5661@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20110801184751.GS20656@gentoo.org> <4E3735C8.6000500@gentoo.org> <20110802063633.GB20656@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110802063633.GB20656@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: b0ccffe1520bd434d4c3fd2d61e46e47 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 08:36:33AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 01-08-2011 23:24:56 +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > As I've expressed already a few times, I strongly disagree with the > > Council being able to change the rules that govern it. In my view, this > > topic belongs to a reform of GLEP39. > >=20 > > Also, as documented on the last meeting's summary[1], the current > > council voted on not being able to update GLEP39: > >=20 > > Donnie asked for a clarification by the council members on whether they > > think a global dev vote is required to update GLEP39 or not. The > > council voted 5 yes and 1 no that the council can't change GLEP39 as it > > requires a full developer vote. > >=20 > > [1] - > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20110715-summary.txt >=20 > Right, which means to me that if the council agrees on a certain change > to GLEP39, it has to organise a full developer vote with all the > supporting material for the change. But, you are saying that the council has to approve changes for glep 39 before they can come to a vote. This would mean that say a majority of developers doesn't like something in glep 39, but the council doesn't approve the change. That change will never come to a vote. In other words, the council has control of the rules that govern it. Is that what you are intending? William --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk44GwAACgkQblQW9DDEZTg7bACfa7Y2ZdtvBVw7/G40nWa9GxBL aY0AoIlNqbc2C2KvvFbd+4G1H5VDbKOv =svOt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+--