From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo8TO-0002gl-BV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 06:29:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D089D21C387; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amun.cheops.ods.org (amun.cheops.ods.org [83.161.135.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B6521C386 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 06:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tefnut.cheops.ods.org ([2001:980:57a5:1:211:24ff:fe37:e46e] helo=gentoo.org) by amun.cheops.ods.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qo8T6-00034a-90 for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:28:44 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 08:28:36 +0200 From: Fabian Groffen To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Preparations Council meeting 2011-08-09 Message-ID: <20110802062835.GA20656@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20110729175513.GA20656@gentoo.org> <4E36E917.50807@gentoo.org> <20110801185931.GU20656@gentoo.org> <4E36FB92.1020408@gentoo.org> <20110801193237.GV20656@gentoo.org> <4E37109A.4010703@gentoo.org> <4E373273.2070208@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E373273.2070208@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (Darwin 8.11.0, VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3) Organization: Gentoo Foundation, Inc. X-Content-Scanned: by amun.cheops.ods.org (Exim Exiscan) using SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 077e31a0f238248de9cf6af5ddf95429 On 01-08-2011 23:10:43 +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > >> Ok, thanks. Am I correct by summarising this point as simply a vote > >> for transferring the cloak responsibility to devrel? > > > > Yes I think this is pretty much the gist. > > No, I'm sorry but that's not the point. > First, these users issues need to be moved to "community relations", the > project I and Petteri have been talking about to unite DevRel and UserRel. > In any case, the 2 issues at stake here are: > > 1. Do we want / support gentoo/user cloaks or not? If so, what is needed > for anyone to get them. I think the council in general should only decide on the first question. The second one should not be an open discussion, but instead pre-discussed such that the council can simply vote on the whole (yes support cloaks, and like this) > 2. What should gentoo/contributor cloaks mean? Should they be reserved > to ATs/HTs/other official project members? How can they be requested / > validated? This seems totally out of the domain of council to me. We have specialised sub-projects to deal with these kinds of grey areas. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level