[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Ferris McCormick]

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I nominate:
ssuominen
armin76

Perhaps others later.

Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[quantumsummers]

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I wish to thank Patrick for nominating me for the Council election. I must decline, however, due to
the conflict presented by my current seat on the board of trustees of the Foundation.

Best of luck to all the candidates!

Regards,
Matthew Summers

quantumsummers@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 09:11 Sun 14 Jun     , quantumsummers wrote:
> I wish to thank Patrick for nominating me for the Council election. I 
> must decline, however, due to the conflict presented by my current 
> seat on the board of trustees of the Foundation.

Just to get it out there, I don't think there's any actual conflict here 
(although the foundation bylaws disallow it, presumably because some 
people appear to think there is -- the reasoning isn't explained). They 
have completely separate roles without significant overlap.

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Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Denis Dupeyron]

> Just to get it out there, I don't think there's any actual conflict here
> (although the foundation bylaws disallow it, presumably because some
> people appear to think there is -- the reasoning isn't explained). They
> have completely separate roles without significant overlap.

The bylaws do disallow it. See section 5.2.

Denis.

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 22:02 Fri 19 Jun     , Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> > Just to get it out there, I don't think there's any actual conflict here
> > (although the foundation bylaws disallow it, presumably because some
> > people appear to think there is -- the reasoning isn't explained). They
> > have completely separate roles without significant overlap.
> 
> The bylaws do disallow it. See section 5.2.

That's what I said: "the foundation bylaws disallow it." Then I 
continued to say the lack of explanation does not help understand why.

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Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Team lead, public relations
Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com

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Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Denis Dupeyron]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> That's what I said: "the foundation bylaws disallow it." Then I
> continued to say the lack of explanation does not help understand why.

I'm sorry, I misread your email. And I agree with you, the reasons for
it are arguable, but on the other hand they made their decision and I
respect it. The meeting logs when that happened [1] give some insight
on their opinion on the matter.

Denis.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/2008/july08.txt

Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

[Roy Bamford]

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On 2009.06.20 05:22, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Donnie Berkholz
> <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > That's what I said: "the foundation bylaws disallow it." Then I
> > continued to say the lack of explanation does not help understand
> why.
> 
> I'm sorry, I misread your email. And I agree with you, the reasons 
> for
> it are arguable, but on the other hand they made their decision and I
> respect it. The meeting logs when that happened [1] give some insight
> on their opinion on the matter.
> 
> Denis.
> 
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/2008/july08.txt
> 
> 
> 
> 

The Foundation bylaws forbid a Gentoo Foundation Inc. trustee from 
serving on the council, ie, if a trustee were elected to council they 
would have to choose one role or another.
The bylaws say nothing about officers of the foundation serving on the 
coucil.

That is, you can't be a decision maker in both places but you can do 
the work. In this instance, were quantumsumers to be elected to the 
council, he could contine in the office of Secretary.

The Foundation are working hard to split the roles of trustees and 
officers but every time we make some progress an officer is elected as 
a trustee. The distinction is important. Trustees make the decisions, 
officers carry out the decisions. Much like any other corporation.

- -- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon) a member of
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
treecleaners
trustees
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