From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JH2Bv-0002sL-BU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:20:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A17B9E06B4; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blob.mailstation.de (news.mailstation.de [87.139.47.139]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E325E06B4 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from janus.mailstation.de (janus.mailstation.de [192.168.168.10]) by blob.mailstation.de (8.14.2/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m0LJINtn023293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:26 +0100 From: "Wulf C. Krueger" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Plan, then communicate (no-list) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080120215706.GA16357@redwoodscientific.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4231617.oHMxbUuzMf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200801212018.23425.philantrop@gentoo.org> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (blob.mailstation.de [192.168.168.30]); Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:26 +0100 (CET) X-mailstation-de-MailScanner-Information: Scanned using: F-Prot, ClamAv, Bitdefender X-mailstation-de-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-mailstation-de-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-mailstation-de-MailScanner-From: philantrop@gentoo.org X-mailstation-de-MailScanner-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 082b6b2e-d3a1-4bca-8c2f-56d301d767b8 X-Archives-Hash: 692a3e983c5f96fd03cb7c4b3b74e6b2 --nextPart4231617.oHMxbUuzMf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 21. January 2008 19:19:12 Steve Long wrote: > And when 90% say they don't like the way they get treated by Gentoo > devs, there is a real issue.=20 "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with=20 the average voter." - Winston Churchill s/voter/user/ > > That being said; talking to users who know what they are doing > > (doubly so when they know more than me) is a delight and I'm > > generally happy to take the time to respond. If there was some way > > to aggregate user complaints into concrete problem sets I'm all ears. > Votes. Require 75% majority from users if you want. No, most of those users do exactly that: They *use* what *we*, the Gentoo=20 developers, provide. They can become developers easily enough and then=20 they may vote all they want. And they can always vote with their feet - on their way out. Gentoo is=20 about choice and one such choice can be to leave. =2D-=20 Best regards, Wulf --nextPart4231617.oHMxbUuzMf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHlO//nuVXRcSi+5oRAuxKAKC89MtoFJNysyoNwgH9PFWah7UoUACgn2xy QoxlalYt6TSLTYHhtAeg/Y0= =W21c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4231617.oHMxbUuzMf-- -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list