From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ID10A-0002oR-0V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:43:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6NGhAEL006798; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:43:10 GMT Received: from mail.genone.homeip.net (dslc-082-082-189-018.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.82.189.18]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6NGh9sB006793 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:43:09 GMT Received: by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 460) id 2BAC4281DA; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:40:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8-gr0-genone_0.7 (2007-02-13) on lyta.genone.homeip.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8-gr0-genone_0.7 Received: from sheridan (sheridan [192.168.0.40]) by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 222D3281D8; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:40:49 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Cc: eselect@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Improving developer/user communication Message-Id: <20070723184049.d0534181.genone@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <469FF6E3.70308@gmail.com> <46A233EE.7010208@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-mingw32) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d3bc3c1d-048a-4224-866b-a376ef43a305 X-Archives-Hash: a438ab8fd75db5e134939b48e9c51001 On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:42:34 -0700 "Alec Warner" wrote: > On 7/21/07, Allen Brooker wrote: > > Allen Brooker wrote: > > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > >> Allen Brooker wrote: > > >>> Could we create a very-low-traffic, developer-posts-only list > > >>> that is used for announcing important package changes? The list > > >>> could also be used for other announcements (not sure exactly > > >>> what - events where Gentoo devs will be, regional meets, other > > >>> things). If people feel that using the same list for other > > >>> announcements too would create too much traffic, consider > > >>> creating multiple lists, which would allow people to subscribe > > >>> to only the types of messages that they want to see. > > >> Just made it at the same time as this one: gentoo-dev-announce. > > >> We're still working out the policy. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Donnie > > >> > > > According to http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml (and my > > > impression from the name) that list appears to be for > > > developer-targeted announcements. > > > > > > What I was thinking was something along the lines of some of the > > > post-install messages (not all of them, just the important ones > > > that might actually (appear to) break things - eg. glibc upgrade > > > - "you can't downgrade"; gcc upgrade - "follow the guide here; > > > coreutils upgrade - "some locations have changed - run 'hash -r' > > > to clear the cache"; etc.) and other user-targeted messages to be > > > sent to a list. > > > > > > Allen > > > > > I've also just been reminded about GLEP 42 [1] - What's the current > > status and what are the hold-ups, if any? How can they be overcome? > > Afaik there is current no news reader for portage; but there is one > for paludis (eselect-news or something) You missed bug 179064, still waiting for some reaction from the eselect people (if there are any alive). > We have been syncing news items to you since spring, but no one has > used the functionality yet. Probably because (released) portage versions didn't support it, and the paludis implementation wasn't fully compliant with the GLEP as well. Marius -- gentoo-project@gentoo.org mailing list