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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-core] Re: Poll: Would you sign a Contributer License Agreement?
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 18:10:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1eaaf964-1483-40a6-3732-8a30b8e08943@iee.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23345.7747.959827.646836@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>


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On 25/06/18 17:54, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, M J Everitt wrote:
>> By contrast, Gentoo is likely to have been cobbled together by a
>> consensus of unqualified persons,
> I would wish you would argue about the facts, instead of resorting to
> an ad-hominem argument. Or, if you believe that you're not qualified
> for the former, simply abstain from posting.
>
>> and is quite unlikely to be defended in court, -should- it come to
>> that (see recent legal case of McHardy et al).
> See? Apparently all these "large organisations" with their highly
> qualified lawyers hadn't understood the consequences of the
> termination clause in section 4 of GPL-2, which is there since 1985.
>
> (And yes, I am aware that they try to band-aid it by imposing
> additional restrictions on top of the GPL.)
>
> Ulrich
With a lack of mail signature with one's qualifications attached (very
90s I know..) it is hard to get an accurate grip on any individuals
particular expertise. I see a hell of a lot of bike-shedding by people
who definitely *think* they know about a subject, without a clear
indication of where this comes from. I have no problem with people
talking with authority (IANAL excepting), but if anyone is actively OR
passively refusing to disclose their sources, is it really unreasonable
to ask someone to justify their arguments? We're pretty good in doing
this in code/GLEPs/etc .. why can't we do it in other just-as technical
discussions? (I have absolutely no issue with footnoting either, it's a
very neat, compact way to achieve the required result).


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-25 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-30 14:36 [gentoo-project] Poll: Would you sign a Contributer License Agreement? Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-30 17:45 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-05-30 18:56   ` Rich Freeman
2018-05-30 22:02     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-31  5:48   ` kuzetsa
2018-05-31 18:53     ` Ulrich Mueller
     [not found] ` <20180530182136.GB18004@kroah.com>
2018-05-30 21:44   ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-30 22:31     ` Rich Freeman
2018-05-30 22:44       ` Ulrich Mueller
     [not found]     ` <20180531070321.GC7744@kroah.com>
2018-05-31  9:34       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-31 10:18       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-31 10:23         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-05-31 22:24     ` Jonas Stein
2018-05-31 22:27       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-05-31 23:52         ` Raymond Jennings
2018-06-01  1:55           ` R0b0t1
2018-06-01  2:32             ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-01 11:49               ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-01  1:52       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-04 12:35 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-04 12:44   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
     [not found]   ` <20180625013334.GA28404@kroah.com>
2018-06-25  6:50     ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-core] " Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-25  7:02       ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
     [not found]       ` <20180625070525.GA6151@kroah.com>
2018-06-25  7:54         ` Ulrich Mueller
     [not found]           ` <20180625110540.GB3058@kroah.com>
2018-06-25 14:08             ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-25 14:37             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-25 14:46               ` M. J. Everitt
2018-06-25 14:56                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-25 15:53                   ` Denis Dupeyron
2018-06-25 16:50                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-25 19:02                       ` Denis Dupeyron
2018-06-25 20:13                         ` Michał Górny
2018-06-25 20:28                           ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2018-06-25 20:33                           ` Denis Dupeyron
2018-06-25 20:31                     ` Alec Warner
2018-06-25 20:52                       ` Denis Dupeyron
2018-06-25 21:06                         ` Alec Warner
2018-06-25 21:06                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-25 22:10                           ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-25 23:55                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-06-25 16:54                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-06-25 17:10                   ` M. J. Everitt [this message]
2018-06-25 17:37                     ` Rich Freeman
2018-06-09  9:02 ` [gentoo-project] " Ulrich Mueller

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