From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1856138350 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57B7FE0966; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2139AE0965 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (c142-245.icpnet.pl [85.221.142.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DC8134EE1D; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:55:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1c28039f9bf22ee07a473b8bfde840727db848e5.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:55:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20200217161812.GA5969@linux1.home> <441737a3d1c0efdfc9f95b1cb1fde47b0f55d58f.camel@gentoo.org> <126ac095ce1f3cd3fd75c4ad977d9ed1e08123df.camel@gentoo.org> <7c54caacaed187e36b3302ccc7d8d4c435247d24.camel@gentoo.org> <553d7247-6a9e-de4f-b352-bfb63fa1d4bf@gentoo.org> <83e58794abdb245c64fdea68784a3f0e28b6d755.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-JEVphPM+dkHB6wy+rXmN" User-Agent: Evolution 3.32.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 127bd167-9265-45c3-bb2e-2997b0ac0c64 X-Archives-Hash: 50a1e79761251c999a63e43d2275dde8 --=-JEVphPM+dkHB6wy+rXmN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:47 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > On 24.02.2020 11:39, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:36 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > > > As a result we have more busywork, this all can be conveyed to Counci= l > > > directly. Also this is unclear to me how a review body will decide wh= at > > > to appeal and what hot to, as the data is still being kept private an= d > > > reviewers are going to only have a decision on hands. Having only > > > decision is not enough to start thinking ComRel did anything wrong > > > (well, unless there were direct rules violation, which, to my knowled= ge > > > has never been the case). > > The whole point is that the review body has direct access to all > > the data (i.e. bugzilla privs, comrel@ alias, IRC channels). Unlike > > your 'individual' it is considered trusted and therefore you don't have > > to 'prepare' data for it. > >=20 > Then as a result you are going to have yet another semi-closed process= =20 > which does not make the entire procedure more transparent (which was the > main concern of this thread). >=20 Obviously. When you can't publish all the data, an 'independent' audit is the best you can get. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-JEVphPM+dkHB6wy+rXmN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEx2qEUJQJjSjMiybFY5ra4jKeJA4FAl5Tj4BfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEM3 NkE4NDUwOTQwOThEMjhDQzhCMjZDNTYzOUFEQUUyMzI5RTI0MEUACgkQY5ra4jKe JA5z/ggAzUZMPLzrV2mRbF3cLov9dN9g5YAbCWtGFcQ5lput8YhJ2/kQ9N5ch4+F 5LF5vm3SeGGzdESf6vj9D/i4grd5VNxKTbR9bmPRNdk+7IPGvy0tPz+IbXMG8Fw2 7UwsLoA1YiGXm2ZyfRch8lp70Cb/9vtNMqiTFVDYiiP56rsnrdyoSDL9iETFYrJO mmqL4YCkQJ0HmKuaUx4AB5XKoaOcoBmATLJ8bIlbct1mUc01o3a9zTNOyc8z8EaM 9eI7BpJjvTze/qYLbIKXgXlnBsLpvK2B+7QnkVtwpXG3PLTsn0cYdd1tA8xBlwkm epEDv96rPf0is1vHSZu5wBCR3/BDwA== =tWMQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-JEVphPM+dkHB6wy+rXmN--